More Powers Given To Bailiffs -protest

[Guest MizzPiggy]

:!: It came to our attention this evening, the concern that we have held for some time.

 

There is a new Bill to be passed through Parliament that will give Bailiffs collecting on Civil Debts powers, to enter your home and take what they can to settle a debt.

 

While the document states many areas of concern, the greatest is that of who is going to be left vunerable....everyone.

 

We all know rogue Bailiffs and the issues surrounding the incredible ridiculous costs that are charged.

 

We all know rouge Bailiffs and their tactics that are often not legal and border on the line of what is criminal actions.

 

We all know rouge Bailiffs and their attempts to add more fees for collection.

 

The isses are many. We have started a mail campaign!. The protest is about saying that the current situation has to be changed to regulate the rogue Bailiffs that are often why we are here.

 

That fees need to be clearer, that governing bodies need to govern, that the issues in all areas of Bailiff Collections needs to take in vulnerable groups and the issues of a society going further into debt trying to manage.

 

The whole protest is a letter sent to your MP. We do it all for you, all you have to do is read the issues and press the button, leave your details and it is done.

 

We as a service are so greatly concerned by the issues that this entire Bill raises.

 

The system will be less open for viewing, and more open to abuse.

 

Have your say if you have ever been affected by a Bailiff or the Bill will go through into parliament and it will be that you will come home to nothing but the essentials.

 

[link removed] front page...if ever you have been affected by a Bailiff, please help us try to change things or at least be heard. We even post the letter for you if you send it back to us!

 

Heres hoping we make a small dent...............the system is hard enough as it is without us all being abused anymore.

 

Thanks everyone,

 

The Watchdog.

 

 

 

[please do not make links to commercial sites - thankyou]

[dragonlord002]

thats odd you only just found this out.

No offence But I belive it will just be a wast of everyones time.

 

 

[deleted]

You have been warned several times about these types of comments.

[Guest Battleaxe]

Dragonlord002,

 

This is not the existing Bill, this is new Bill which is being introduced and believe me, it gives even more powers to these people.

 

Perhaps you should read Hansard for this week and you will see what is being proposed.

 

I nearly choked when I heard it announced on Radio 4 at 6.30am.

 

If we do not so something NOW, it will be passed and you will find you have even less protection than what is on the Statute Books.

[Bookworm]

Do you have the correct link? Anyone?

[dragonlord002]

I know read my post and other posts on the subject I know you dident because no one reads that fast and the bill is long.

 

see the link above that ie the pdf of the final draft of the bill. dident you look at it ? that is it

 

 

I dont no what battaxe is talking about dont think he understands how bill are passed first theres a white paper then green finally the bill is drafted and voted on

 

above is the finall draft there may be some changes yet when it get parlimentry time hopefull it will get defeted but i dout it.

 

bookworm that is the corect link m8

[Bookworm]

544 pages, strewth!

 

I think it will have to wait until after breakfast...

[dragonlord002]

544 pages, strewth!

 

I think it will have to wait until after breakfast...

 

yea its a long and nasty read m8

[dragonlord002]

http://www.dca.gov.uk/legist/tribenforce_explanatorynotes.pdf

 

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/secure/file/157919/e:/teamsite-deployed/documents//templatedata/Internet%20Documents/Government%20proposals/Documents/TribunalscourtsResponse031006.pdf

[Guest Battleaxe]

"I dont no what battaxe is talking about dont think he understands how bill are passed first theres a white paper then green finally the bill is drafted and voted on"

 

 

Oh dear, firstly, I am female.

 

Secondly, I do understand how Bills are passed. I do not need a lesson on Civics.

 

 

Thirdly, If you don't nip things in the bud before they take off, then you find yourself with something you could have tried to prevent. No use whingeing after the event. You cannot be complacent. After all cmpacency has given the banks and CRA's the powers they enjoy now.

 

Just hoping that it gets defeated during debate is not enough, you have to let your MP know how you feel about things.

 

Maybe because I come from a culture which is more in your face and we do hold our MP's responsible for the way they vote. Then again where I come from voting is COMPULSORY, if you dont vote your are fined and fined heavily. This is for all tiers of government, local through to federal.

 

Sitting back and doubting that it will not be passed is not good enough. We the silent majority, just can't shrug our shoulders, we are responsible for the government we get.

 

For some good bedtime reading I do recommend Hansard.

 

I am expressing my opinion, like it or lump it.

 

I am sucking a lemon on your comments.

[MARTIN3030]

thats odd you only just found this out.

No offence But I belive it will just be a wast of everyones time.

 

[deleted]

 

You have been warned several times about these types of comments.

 

Hardly a response that most of use would use-meeting anyone with a barrel would certainly put a temporary end to the problem........but maybe they would still be there after serving the prison sentence ?

[Guest MizzPiggy]

Dear All,

The document is long which is why I didn't personally add it as a link.

 

For the slightly sarcastic comment of didn't I know, yes I have known for a long time and working actively within this field, it was a fear we all had that this would go ahead and can provide all the law reform documents and paper work to back up what is on the site. The concern is that often people don't want to read the whole thing, just want to see what affects them. So if anyone would like the entire bill, please just ask.

 

It has been closely monitored and it was only last night that word got out that yes the bill is to be pushed ahead. Bit like the Magistrates Court bill at the end of 2004 I am sure you know about that got snuck through!

 

I am not saying your local person will do anything but, I am saying it is better than nothing as at the end of the day just grizzling here doesn't achieve anything!

 

It is a start, and a copy will go direct to the person that is upholding the bill to go through.

 

I will never understand it. I am sorry but yes a little dissolusioned.

 

As the Director I personally set this up last night so it was easy. The only effort required is you to fill out your details and either send it back to us, or post it yourself. However, the comments I have read this morning sadden me.

 

No one wants this to go through. Everyone says something here and yet not one person has decided to do something and click the button to make a change!

 

What is wrong with trying???????I don't own a shot gun, sorry!

 

You choose if a shot gun or at least trying with a letter has to work.

 

It takes a few people to believe that things can change for it to start to.

 

Sorry all, a little dissapointed and sometimes the cynics do get me down.....they are people that have given up the fight.

 

Alison - Director Bailiff Watchdog

[dragonlord002]

Alison mostlt my coments were not directed at you. I took offence to someone explaining to me like you would too a 3year old. whewn they had noteeven read my post.

 

as for no one doing anything thats the brotish public for you and the reson I m disolutioned like your self.

 

however asking ,e to write a letter to my MP wont do ****

call me a cynic but thats the truth

 

ask me to take direct action and I would if the rest of the muppets will stand up and be counted.

 

theres far more to this bill than meets the eye.

 

its part of the plan for local councils to hand out civil fines for every thing under the sun

 

Iv warned pepole on her before about does anyone do anything no

 

Welxome to the bannana republic of the uk

 

and i wouldent wast my time.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

this shows the givernment is acting on behalf of the industry. there will probably be ways of getting around but again bailiffs will come in do what they want and then we will have to go chasing through the legal system again and again. who are the t***** who keep on making these laws ? now we have the chance. its more likely that the people who are taking this as a joke will be the first ones to kick up a hoo haah when it gets them.

[sarahpp]

Watchdog

 

Thanks for all your hard work. I have seen some of your postings on the baliffs and debt forum and know that you have helped posters by giving sound and objective advice.

 

Sarah

 

edited due to link removal from original post

[paulusii]

Why are people wasting time slagging each other off for trying to be helpfull??

How come nobody can spell anymore, maybe we need a spell checker built into the reply Box thingy!

Why was the link removed for the protest form if thats what it was.

I think Bailiffs charges are far to high. I would like to protest but dont know where or how.

Lifes a Bitch and then you Die.

[Guest MizzPiggy]

Bailiff Watchdog can be found under any google search or msn search.

 

It is a shame that they have removed the Link, as we are only trying to help.

 

Thankyou for those that have found us and do believe your letters make a difference.

 

So far we have 20 letters that are going to go!

 

Please support this.

 

London Motorists Actions Group are also supporting us.

 

Its when you give up that things don't change...

 

To all that have also given us an email of support...THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!

[paulson1985]

Anyone who has ever had any bad experiences with bailiffs needs to send this letter off.

 

Believe me if this gets through it will be a nightmare, you will not be able to keep your doors locked against them , it will not matter about gaining peaceful entry they will just break in whether you are home or not.

 

The implications are horrific.

 

I urge you please let your MPs know your fears..Before if it to late.

[dragonlord002]

Yes It will be horrific That is why its too late for letter writeing. Its time for Direct action.

 

Its a war not a letter essay contest.

 

fight dont write protest bring blockad london

 

but oh this is england the public cant do that there just write a silly letter.

[Guest MizzPiggy]

All these views, hundreds of people have clicked on and viewed the article I have written, but few people have actually decided to do something.

 

I guess our service will be around for a long time, as if this bill goes ahead, there will not be one of you that is not going to be affected.

 

Sighs...its too easy....maybe thats where I went wrong...I made it too easy that I took the thought away?

 

Please, anyone that reads this, Dragon Lord is wrong....you don't get anywhere if you don't try.

 

If this Bill goes through, then the freedoms you think you have will be gone and there will be nothing anyone can do.

 

Despite what Dragon Lords says, it does make a difference.

[YANO BEMUSE]

If you want to see bailiffs properly regulated, write to your MP to support Early Day Motion 2868.

 

An EDM is a way that MPs support an idea in the hope that the Government will act. EDM 2868 calls on the Government to put realistic proposals for bailiff regulation in the Tribunals, Courts & Enforcement Bill.

 

The Bill includes proposals for a new certification procedure for bailiffs but it is wholly inadequate: it will not deter rouge bailiffs but make it harder to identify and punish them. (The max fine it proposes will be less than the cost of getting a certificate!)

 

You can contact your MP through UK Parliament - Directories - MPs and Lords.

[dragonlord002]

WHy not get a real protest and demoptration going

now that may make the powers at be know we aint going to take there ****.

watchdog Im not advocationing doing nothing the compleat opersit infact

 

all im say is sill letters wont do **** get a major protest going and take action.

 

do you think letter writeing or sulking to your MP stoped the poll tax

 

Did it feck they olny changed there minedwhen it was getting to the stage of civil unrest and london was about to burn before they took notice.