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    • Thank you. here's the changes I made 1) removed indexed statement of truth 2) added donough v Stevenson in paragraph 40, just under the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982 paragraph about reasonable care and skill. i'm assuming this is a good place for it? 3) reworded paragraph 16 (now paragraph 12), and moved the t&cs paragraphs below it then. unless I understood you wrong it seems to fit well. or did you want me to remove the t&cs paragraphs entirely? attached is the updated draft, and thanks again for the help. WS and court bundle-1 fourth draft redacted.pdf
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Hi guys

 

 

New to the forum - so please go easy on me

 

 

Anyways - Having worked in retail for many years, I know a fair bit about shoplifting. Have seen it all - mostly videos by the shop security teams - and being committed by people with my own eyes.

 

 

Anyways, a few days ago I was in the Manchester branch or T K Maxx. I was downstairs and was trying several pairs of shoes on.

 

 

Long story short - I put the wrong pair of shoes back on the rack, i.e - the ones I walked in wearing - which I also purchased in the same shop, several months earlier. I had been interrupted by a phone call and was not paying attention when I made the mistake.

 

 

I left the store and was stopped by a member of the store security who hauled me into their office and after verifying several of my details was told I would be hearing from their representatives through the post.

 

 

Now the thing is this - througout my life I have always suffered with memory problems. When I was at school, it was bought to my parents attention that I may have Dysprxia. All of my symptoms (poor hand-eye co-ordination, attention span, memory issues, retaining information) pointed to the fact that I may have this disability.

 

 

Against my better judgement, and the fact that I was too proud, I never sought to have it verified by a specialist, although several of my jobs have come to an end as a result of one of the aforementioned problems - jobs at Barclaycard and Ofsted - due to me not being able to concentrate and retain information due to my mind wandering. I have also missed appointments - leading me to being sanctioned on one occassion, again, due to my poor memory.

 

 

So, even though it was an honest mistake - is there not anyway I can appeal my case? If the shoes had been tagged for a start, surely this would have helped - if the alarm had gone off at the door, then I wouldn't have left the store, and I could have sorted it out - yet been deeply embarrased!

 

 

Any help greatly appreciated

 

 

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Hi The5th

 

Welcome to CAG

 

It is a shame that your condition hasn't been documented by your doctor. There is nothing to stop you asking your doctor if he can look at your condition and write a letter based on that. To be honest you should have done that a long time ago.

 

You can then send the doctors letter with a covering letter to TK Maxx, Head Office. Hopefully they will view it sympathetically as a genuine mistake. If it is diagnosed by your doctor, your condition could be covered by the Equality Act 2010.

 

TK Maxx and HomeSense

50 Clarendon Road

Watford

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Hi,

As you didn't mention police involvement, I will assume they were not contacted. This seems to be standard with TKMaxx (unless the amount taken was quite high)

Their representative will be RLP who will send you ever increasing demands for payment. They will threaten all sorts including recommending their client instigate court action.

What is the worst they can do to you? Ermmm-Nothing!

 

They write and write and write then pass the 'debt' to a pet DCA who will send a few more begging letters then it goes quiet.

 

do not worry about what they claim they can do as it is just that, a claim.

 

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