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    • If I have learnt one thing from this forum, it's not to call and communicate via email. I passed this info on to her and they are pushing for her to call them.    "Unfortunately, you will need to call us. The conversation won’t be so black and white as to therefore type over email. In a nutshell we can confirm that the request to not pay for 3 months we cannot put in place"  I emailed them back on her behalf and said that what ever is discussed over the phone will need to be put in an email so that she can review it properly. No decisions will be made on that phone call.    "Once we speak to you on the phone we will follow up with an email to confirm the options discussed. [Phone number]"   Why are they pushing for a phone call? If its not so black and white, why can they then follow up with an email?  
    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. 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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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This thread is extremely useful and interesting.

I have had a contact from Cabot too. CAB are handling it for me. Should I send them the CCA letter? I really don't want to pay - at any time - if I don't have to.

What do you reckon?

:eek::confused: Totallylost :confused::eek:

I only want what's mine.

 

Cabot (Halifax CC) £3304.31 - trying to negotiate min payment.- Sept 09

They sent copy of original agreement (bad copy).Felt I had to comply to stall. :mad:

 

Halifax/BMidshires - Mortgage - £18000 - In process of beginning to sue for them selling the house (after REPO) below the market value. :mad:

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This thread is extremely useful and interesting.

I have had a contact from Cabot too. CAB are handling it for me. Should I send them the CCA letter? I really don't want to pay - at any time - if I don't have to.

What do you reckon?

 

i would send your cca to cabot and go from there!!

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This thread is extremely useful and interesting.

I have had a contact from Cabot too. CAB are handling it for me. Should I send them the CCA letter? I really don't want to pay - at any time - if I don't have to.

What do you reckon?

 

 

It would depend on your situation really. None of us want to pay but explain your circumstances and we might be able to provide more information for you. If the debt exists then one has an obligation, but if you are like my own where the whole debt is made up of charges then it's a kinda different.

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Hi

Thanks.

The situation is that DH is in rehab after depression set in and he hit the bottle big time. His problem but he has left behind a whole lotta debt. He won't be out of rehab til October earliest. When he went in I contacted every company that I knew of to explain that money was non existent and that please could they hold fire till the end of the year.

A lot of the companies such as Citi bank, Yes car credit etc. have said that they are giving the debt over to collection agencies. Not alot I can do about that so what else could I say. They don't want the bother of waiting to see if they get their money back, so they hand it on. Their privelage I suppose.

 

Anyway,most of the debts, including cabot, is DH;s debt. Sole name. There are others such as Welcome Finance which is secured, that sort of thing.

 

I found myself/him in such dire straights after his binge of 6mths inside a vodka bottle, that I felt I couldn't cope with all the phone calls, explainations, letters, threats etc... I needed help. I first went to CCCS, who I have to say are pretty good.

I have no idea what to do with all the forms etc. So I went to Debt Matters... I have been told they charge, but they can't help anyway. Not enough coming in for an IVA. So I went to the CAB financial "experts" who have so far written letters to the creditors with a financial statement. I just keep them informed of a progress that occurs with each creditor... ie summonses etc...

 

We are jointly liable for the mortgage but there is no way I can pay that on what I earn. (£80/wk) The mortgage itself comes to approx £1800 per month!!

 

DH went bankrupt about 9yrs ago because of a business deal that went wrong for him. He has been penalised for it ever since. He was only out of b/ruptcy 2yrs before we appllied for a mortgage.

 

Anyways, hope this puts a clearer picture on it.

There are other collectors involved now too.

 

Thanks for helping/just being there.:)

:eek::confused: Totallylost :confused::eek:

I only want what's mine.

 

Cabot (Halifax CC) £3304.31 - trying to negotiate min payment.- Sept 09

They sent copy of original agreement (bad copy).Felt I had to comply to stall. :mad:

 

Halifax/BMidshires - Mortgage - £18000 - In process of beginning to sue for them selling the house (after REPO) below the market value. :mad:

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I'm really sorry to hear of your difficulties, but never give up hope - thesre's 40,000 people coming to this forum and everyone of them are sharing information which will take you through the steps and out of trouble stage by stage.

 

If you start your own thread Moderators will follow your every step.

 

As for Cabot, I think you will do no harm issuing a CCA for £1. My experience of them so far is that they don't know quite what they are doing, Using the templates I sent them the letter telling them I didn't recognise that I owed Cabot anything. I sent the CCA letter with the £1 postal Order and they sent me back a letter thanking me for my payment and that I should contact them to set up a payment plan:-| With the 12 days now passed they would need a court order to gain payment and at the end of the 30 days it will become uninforceable. They responded to the Data Protection Act request and sent statements and a lot of ghost letters ( copies of unaddressed standard letters from their computer which mean nothing at all).

 

Would I be correct in thinking there are a lot of charges on the original accounts ? If so you can write to everyone for the Data Protection Act requests re charges and all the collection agents telling them that the accounts are in dispute and that you do not wish them to call you by telephone and that if they do they will be breaching the Wireless and Telegraphy Act - so everything in writing.

 

What is emphasised throughout this forum is the necessity for people to get control back over these debts and only you can do that by reading what everyone is doing. There are various different approaches being taken by so many people and even the most knowledgable can learn something. One thing to remember is that we all have had some kind problem with debt for all types of reason and the synergy of this site gives the power back to the individual using the very laws these finance companies and collection agents throw at us all.

 

You will never be alone on this site - theres 40,000 of us!:)

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Well said!

 

Ask any questions that you may have and you will get all the help you need.

 

One thing to remember is that there really is very little they can do if you simply cannot pay.

 

A friend of mine told me today that he had sent his CCA letter off to Legal & Trade and they (quite incorrectly and incompetently) accepted it as a payment and sent him a bundle of payment slips and informed him that they "look forward to another payment next week" and that they "accepted his payment offer of £1 per week."

 

Thing is, the debt is for just over £12,000 and he is in his 60's so at £1 per week...

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tell him to keep stum. If they don't understand the CCA process that's their problem. That's exactly what cabot have done to me, taken my £1 as a payment so to hell with em. 12 days have expired - roll on the end of the month! If your chum finds they don't respond within 30 days the debt is uninforceable from what I can understand. I'll find out the exact legal position tomorow and post here again.

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Thanks Andrew, that would be useful.

iGroup (GE Money) - AoS Filed late, defence late, amended defence also late despite extra time requested and granted.

Vanquis - Claim issued, no AoS or Defence received

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