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    • This is my slightly amended WS taking on board your previous comments, any suggestions for amendments would be most appreciated.  Thank you for you time.   1.        I am the Defendant in this matter. 2.        The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge. 3.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 4.        The alleged Letter of Claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address. 5.        The Judgement debt was not familiar to me so I began investigations to ascertain what the debt related to and how such a figure had been equated in any event. 6.        I made immediate contact with the Court, the Claimant Solicitors and the Claimants thereafter, asking them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.  7.        I sent a Data Subject access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided – See appendix 1 which details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclaycard as well as copies of correspondence between us. 8.        I do not admit to entering an agreement with Barclaycard in 2000. 9.       The claimant has failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis and therefore this claim should be automatically struck out.  10.    The claimants have failed to disclose a true executed copy of the original agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim. They are not entitled to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 12.   The reconstituted standard Barclaycard agreement that the claimant has included in the court bundle does not satisfy any CCA request and so the claimant is and remains in default of my CCA request and therefore unable to enforce the alleged agreement. 13.  The claimants have failed to provide proof the assignment, such as a deed of assignment. 14.  The claimant has failed to provide a statement of account setting out how the alleged debt accrued under that agreement 15.   Despite numerous requests to the claimant, I have still not seen any evidence, such as an original agreement or deed of assignment, that substantiates the claimant’s assertion that I owe the debt to the claimant, nor evidence of how the debt was accrued. 16.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway.  Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending.  Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay.  If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years.
    • oh no just logged in and it says a judgment was issued literally 2 hours ago! see attached Screenshot 2024-04-29 214754.pdf
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Hi all,

 

I have had a letter from wescot today chasing a debt from Natwest Retail. The balance is £318.99 Im guessing it was a joint bank account my ex and I had some years ago, possibly 4 or 5 years. If it is a bank account should I do a CCA request to wescot and maybe a SAR to Natwest?

 

Please help

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Hi, NO a bank account does not have a CCA 1974 agreement as it is not a form of credit, so no point in a CCA request.

A SAR will produce all the data on the account, but if this is a joint account the data you will receive from a SAR will be

restricted to data strictly referring to you only.

 

I would suggest the following letter to Wescot.

 

The Compliance Manager

Wescot Credit Services.

 

 

Ref: Use theirs:

 

Sir/ Madam,

 

I refer to a letter from Wescot date xx xx xxxx in which it is alleged that I owe a debt for £318.89 originating from and an account with Nat West, please not I have no knowledge of and do not accept any liability for this alleged debt.

 

Therefore Wescot Credit Services Ltd., must within 7 days provide unequivocal proof that I am the debtor it seeks, if such information in not forthcoming I will consider

the matter closed.

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Thanks Brig

 

Ill give that a go

 

Good luck.

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Hi all

 

Had a response from Wescot with regard to my prove it letter. They are asking for me to confirm my date of birth. The last address I lived with my ex and date vacated.

 

How should I play this one?

 

Often tempted when Wescot ask this to suggest reply I don't need to confirm my DOB as I already know it, thank you for your inquiry.

To reply normally I would state that if Wescot have been writing/calling they must already know who you are, and tell them that requiring such proof of identity is in breach of OFT Guidance on Debt Collection as it is entirely for them to prove you are the debtor (alleged) that they seek.

 

 

It is of course your choice of how you reply, my guess is they are using CRA tracing searches to confirm your ID.

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Hi brig

 

Thanks again. Do you think this letter is appropriate?

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

You have contacted me/us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself/ourselves.

 

I/we would point out that I/we have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to (insert company name).

 

I am/we are familiar with the Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance which states that it unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question.

 

I/we would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.

 

Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment.

 

I/we would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my/our liability for the debt in question.

 

I/we await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions.

 

I/we look forward to your reply.

 

Yours faithfully

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Absolutely fine, just add as the last line:

 

This letter is NOT an admission of any liability to xxxxxxxx or any company it may claim to represent.

 

Don't want Wetcloths claiming it's an acknowledgment at a later date.:wink:

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Hi everyone.

 

After sending a prove it emai to Wescot on 20/07/2013 I have heard nothing until today. A letter from Wescot saying their client has offered a discount. They do not state what or how much the discount is. It just asked me to call them within 10 days or the offer will be withdrawn and they will commence further collection activities. This account is in formal dispute. They have not replied to my prove it email. I have sent the email again but am not expecting a reply. What action should I take now if any. Thanks

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