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    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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Can anyone reply please to my last post, do I send a letter to Marlin saying Statute Barred?????

 

Yes you should send the SB letter to them. Here is the appropriate template which you can use.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387368-Letter-to-be-sent-when-debt-is-Statute-Barred

 

Statute barring is not directly connected to collection of debts. Just because a debt is statute barred doesn't mean it does not exist and collection agencies can continue to try and collect. Statute Barring is only a bar to enforcement through the courts.

 

However, when once you have told the creditor that the debt is SB and that you will not paying, they should cease collection. If they don't then you have the relevant ammunition to lodge formal complaints with the relevant authorities.

 

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Do you have a problem with Egg and or Marlin?

 

 

The successes I've seen involved making Formal Complaints (very robustly) to the OC and which ever DCA was involved.

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OH NO! Made a mistake with my dates the debt was only 5 years not six they wrote back and said last payment was 24th October 2009, which I have now found, they have enclosed an income expenditure form for me to send back.

Should I now start the process from the beginning as no application form was ever signed?

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OH NO! Made a mistake with my dates the debt was only 5 years not six they wrote back and said last payment was 24th October 2009, which I have now found, they have enclosed an income expenditure form for me to send back.

Should I now start the process from the beginning as no application form was ever signed?

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Hi easy mistake to make

 

 

Yes SAR to OC, and if you haven't done so a CCA to the DCA.

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ims21 can you resend your message of 23.13 pm last night re. Statute Barring please ?- it has disappeared from the site together with my message to you.]

Thanks Hopster

 

 

I have done...your own thread has been created here and have responded on that

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?434723-Me-amp-EGG-help-please&p=4630314#post4630314

 

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Received a letter today off Mortimer Clark in relation to the 2 letters I sent to Marlin and themselves, which was a CCA request.

The letter is very brief and says ,thank you for your letter dated 9th Oct 14.

We confirm that we have forwarded your document request to our client and we will be in contact when we receive a response.

(Now this is the bit I don't understand?)

We further confirm that this debt originated with a Credit Card through Egg Banking Plc. The date of the original agreement was 22/03/2000 and bore the agreement number *************** This agreement was terminated on 8th March 2007.

Your account will be placed on hold pending a response from our client.

So I sent the Statute Barred letter and they say they received a payment on 24th Oct 2009, I would not have sent a payment if the agreement had been terminated on 8th March 2007???

Am I missing something here?

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Received a letter today off Mortimer Clark in relation to the 2 letters I sent to Marlin and themselves, which was a CCA request.

The letter is very brief and says ,thank you for your letter dated 9th Oct 14.

We confirm that we have forwarded your document request to our client and we will be in contact when we receive a response.

(Now this is the bit I don't understand?)

We further confirm that this debt originated with a Credit Card through Egg Banking Plc. The date of the original agreement was 22/03/2000 and bore the agreement number *************** This agreement was terminated on 8th March 2007.

Your account will be placed on hold pending a response from our client.

So I sent the Statute Barred letter and they say they received a payment on 24th Oct 2009, I would not have sent a payment if the agreement had been terminated on 8th March 2007???

Am I missing something here?[/quote#

 

 

 

 

How much is the alleged payment £1 or £10 by any chance? This is becoming common with Marlin " mystery " 1 off payments, some have proven to be CCA or SAR stat fees paid to OCs or other FCA.

 

 

You need the to provide unequivocal proof of how the payment as made, credit/debit card, card No. and issuer, cheque/name of bank and sort code/name of account holder and date cashed etc.,

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