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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
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they are playing, just by their own rules. MCOL on thursday and smile to yourself abotutheir losses rocketing with the 8% interest as they ahve refused to listen to your claim and reasonable attempts to save them further money.

good luck and let us know when you get the cas back so we can all join in laughing at shabby grabby nabby!

me against the abbey Paid in full (donation made)

me against the woolwich Paid in full(donation made)

me against HSBC Paid in full(donation made)

 

 

beware the scrapbooker, for she has a long memory and sharp knives :lol:

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Hi & Welcome to the site,..Read the FAQ's ,make your own thread and you will very fast get the genral idea about things,..I was the same as yourself not long back,..now quite confident about taking the bank on and understanding the process required to getting my money back,..There is lots of help on here & lots of stages to refer to as you go through the stages of claiming your charges back,..best of luck M.

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I wasn't sure where to post this but i applied for a remortgage about 6 weeks ago & it came up on my search that i had a bank loan with payments showing up to date, i was shocked to say the least as i dont have a loan, i went onto experian website last week & there it was a loan with the Abbey for £3200. I know nothing about this loan so sent an email to experian, Got a reply back today from experian sayin letter had gone off to the Abbey with this statemant THE ACCURACY OF THIS DATA HAS BEEN DISPUTED BY THE INDIVIDUAL

CONCERNED AND WE HAVE NOW CONTACTED THE SUBSCRIBER. CARE SHOULD THEREFORE BE

TAKEN WHEN USING THIS ITEM OF DATA TO ASSESS THE CREDITWORTHINESS OF THE

INDIVIDUAL CONCERNED."

 

 

What should i do about This? do i sit & wait? any advise would be greatley appreciated.

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I've Recieved another letter today from abbey saying the usual bogoff we are not paying anythig back to you.They have until fir 13th to respond according to court docs.What is my next step??? They also said that the oft & The house of commons treasury comittee relate to credit card charges only & not bank charges.....

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Found out what this loan was on my credit file thogh i had to go into abbey branch, a loan that i had paid off 2 years ago had not been cleared the money was put into a clearence account & installments were still being paid. they have now told me that it will be cleared should i claim for compo as it has effected my credit rating as it still showed that i had more credit than what i actually had.for over 2 years.

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I popped into the court & they don't seem to have recieved a copy of the defence that abbey sent to me & advised to wait a couple of days before taking my copy of the defence to show them.I thought they were supposed to send the defence into court & not direct to me???

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When you read the template from the library for completing your AQ did you miss out the bits youre asking about?

 

Its all there I am completing mine too and i think all the answers you need are there.

 

HTH

 

glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

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MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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Hello Everyone. Long time no speak to, been very busy with my teenage tare away. anyway thats another tale.

Have not heard anything about my claim with the abbey for months now & it is due for hearing in court next tues on 13th feb,Went into the court today to see if they had heard anything, & yes they had. The defence has said they will not be attending the hearing as claim is now settled.Well it bloody well isn't i said. they have advised me that i should still attend the hearing which i will, nothing has come in the post & court was notified of this yesterday. Any tips at all for when i go in will be greatly appriciated.

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