Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Unsettling the applecart?,  I'm going to be direct here, I know how this works , I've been in far worse situation than your relative, and I can assure you , now that there i likely a default in her name, it makes absolutely ZERO difference if she pays or not. Denzel Washington in the Equalizer , 'My only regret is that I can't kill you twice'... It's the same with a default, they can only do it once and it stays on your credit file for 6 years if she pays or not, and as it stands right now she's flushing £180 of her hard earned money down the toilet  so that the chaps at Lowell can afford a Christmas party. As for the SAR this is everybody's legal right, originally under the Data Protection act 1998 and now under GDPR, it's her right to find out everything that the original Creditor has on her file, and by not doing it the only person she is doing a massive disservice to is her self. As the father of 2 young adults myself, they need to learn at some point.. right?
    • Thank you for your pointers - much appreciated. dx100uk - Apologies, my request wasn't for super urgent advice and I have limited online access due to my long working hours and caring obligations - the delay in my response doesn't arise in any way from disrespect or ingratitude. I will speak to her at the weekend and see if she will open up a bit more about this, and allow me to submit the subject access request you advise - the original creditor is 118 118 loans and from the letter I saw (which prompted the conversation and the information) the debt collection agency had bought the debt from 118 and were threatening enforcement which is when she has made a payment arrangement with them for an amount of £180 per month. It looks as if she queried matters at the time (so I wonder if I might with the FIO request get access to their investigation file?) - the letter they wrote said "The information that you provided has been carefully considered and reviewed. After all relevant enquiries were made it has been confirmed that there is not enough evidence present to conclusively prove that this application was fraudulent.  However, we have removed the interest as a gesture of goodwill. As a result of the findings, you will be held liable for the capital amount on the loan on the basis of the information found during the investigation and you will be pursued for repayment of the loan agreement executed on 2.11.2022 in accordance with Consumer Credit Act 1974"  The amount at that time was over £3600 in arrears, as no payments had been made on it since inception and I think she only found out about it when a default notice came in paper form. I'm a little reluctant to advise her to just stop paying, and would like to be able to form a view in relation to her position and options before unsetting the applecart - do you think this is reasonable? She is young and inexperienced with these things and getting into this situation has brought about a lot of shame regarding inability to sort things out/stand up for herself, which is one of the reasons I have only found out about this considerably later Thank you once again for your advice - it is very much appreciated.    
    • That's fine - I'm quite happy to attend court if necessary. The question was phrased in such a way that had I declined the 'consideration on the papers' option, I would have had to explain why I didn't think such consideration was appropriate, and since P2G appear to be relying on a single (arguably flawed) issue, I thought it might result in a speedier determination.
    • it was ordered in the retailers store  but your theory isnt relevant anyway, even if it fitted the case... the furniture is unfit for purpose within 30 days so consumer rights act overwrites any need to use 14 days contract law you refer too. dx  
    • Summary of the day from the Times. I wasn't watching for a couple of interesting bits like catching herself out with her own email. Post Office inquiry: Paula Vennells caught out by her own email — watch live ARCHIVE.PH archived 23 May 2024 11:57:02 UTC  
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

help - got caught using my mates 18+ card


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4388 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi, Everyone...

Recently I have been got at Kingscross Station using my friend 18+ oyster card who is in out of country at this moment.

 

First I showed him my original oyster which has £3.60 in it.

 

Later when the officer had threaten me to show the other oyster card, otherwise he will call police then I showed him.

 

The officer asked me if my friend knew that I am using his oyster my answer was in affirmative.

 

My question is, will my friend also get prosecutde with me or they will send the letter to me.

 

The officer has taken all my details and had confiscated my friends oyster.

 

He said, the authority will send me letter about this matter and If I co-operate with them they will settle the matter with me.

 

I await to hear from one of guru of this forum,

very soon.

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you confirmed that your friend gave you his Oyster travelcard to use whilst he was away, you can both be charged with an offence

 

Did you give full correct contact details for both you and your friend?

 

He didn't ask any detail of my friend.He just took his my detail and his oyster. And in the end I asked him what about the money in the friend's oyster. He offered me if my friend report that oyster lost, he will get the refund. He also told me he wont report that oyster to student oyster's department. During our whole conversation he didn't tell me anything regarding my friend will also got prosecute. I was just worried because I took his oyster while he was away. He was telling me that its a crme but instead I told him I will manage, now I have been caught in this fuss. I just did to save £10 :(

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you confirmed that your friend gave you his Oyster travelcard to use whilst he was away, you can both be charged with an offence

 

Did you give full correct contact details for both you and your friend?

 

Sorry, there is mistake in above reply..

He just took my detail and my friend's oyster

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks, Honey Bee and Old-CODJA for your concern.

My another question is that, I am going out of the country at the end of this month will be returning on 30th November. I am quite confuse that what should I do if letter from TFL arrive during my absence. Please, reply me as soon as possible as I really need your help

 

P.S. I just give my details and my friend's oyster to the officer.

Link to post
Share on other sites

new thread created

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks, Honey Bee and Old-CODJA for your concern.

My another question is that, I am going out of the country at the end of this month will be returning on 30th November. I am quite confuse that what should I do if letter from TFL arrive during my absence. Please, reply me as soon as possible as I really need your help

 

P.S. I just give my details and my friend's oyster to the officer.

 

It will probably take a few weeks before you hear anything from them. I wouldn't panic yet, these offices have hundreds of cases to deal with every week.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It will probably take a few weeks before you hear anything from them. I wouldn't panic yet, these offices have hundreds of cases to deal with every week.

 

Please also tell me, as officer has not asked any details about my friend, will he prosecute as well, as i don't want him to involve in this matter

Link to post
Share on other sites

Please also tell me, as officer has not asked any details about my friend, will he prosecute as well, as i don't want him to involve in this matter

 

Hello again. Sadly, I doubt whether anyone here will be able to guess what TfL are thinking of doing. But if they have your friend's Oyster card, then they'll be able to identify him from that, won't they?

 

OC has already said he could be prosecuted if he agreed to you using the card, but you seem to be saying that he didn't agree?

 

I don't mean to be unkind, but the way to keep your friend out of the matter was to not take his Oyster card, especially after what he said to you. If you hear back from TfL, you will have to tell him.

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 6 months later...

Hi, I received summon from court as I have used my friend's oyster. I posted my plea form along with means of information form, as I wanted to plead guilty by post. I thought that will be enough. But last week I received letter from court, in which it was stated that the hearing was adjourned due to my absence and ask me to attend the court on next hearing, which is on 12 June, n order to plead/or plead guilty. I am very worried, that this incidence had made my case weak. Please help me

Link to post
Share on other sites

whoops

 

no-one advised you to write a pleading letter when you got the first letter from the railway co?

 

i'd await the experts

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is probably because of something that you said in your letter.

 

For instance, if you said something like 'I plead guilty but I did not intend to avoid the fare' the Magistrates will consider that an equivocal plea and may ask for your attendance at Court to explain yourself.

 

Perhaps if you copy your letter here with all personal details removed, and also copy out the exact wording of the charge on your summons, we will be able to see what you may have said that could have caused the need for adjournment.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I just sent plea form in which there were three option given, which are given below

either,

1-plead guilty but don't want to attend court.

2-plead guilty and want to attend court.

3-Not plead guilty.

 

I choose first option and sent it to given address, along with mean of information form, in which give my income and outcome detail.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Then it appears there is something in all of this that gives the Magistrates reason to consider that your attendance to explain yourself is essential.

 

If you fail to attend, the Magistrates may not be amused and I suggest that you contact the Court immediately to find out why your plea was not accepted. You can then be properly prepared for the hearing on June 12th.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I called the court, they have received my plea along with means of information letter. The lady said might be the magistrate wants to ask more question about my plea, then they will decide about the fine.

 

I also want to ask, as I am applying for German student visa, is it necessary for me to mention about this conviction in the Visa application form.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello again, I'm pleased you're making progress with this.

 

When you say you're applying for a German student visa, do you mean a German student coming here or do you want to be a student in Germany please?

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

is this mean... they will charge me with serious fine...

 

No, it means that you will need to answer whatever it is that the Magistrates do not understand from your original plea.

 

Then, once they are clear about what you meant they will decide what action should be taken.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...