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Good morning fellow CAGgers,

 

I am at present dealing with a little alleged debt with Lowell. I sent off the CCA request and yesterday recieved this envelope:

 

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I recognised the address as MacKenzie Hall (who I have defeated in the past). But when I opened the envelope the following letter from LOWELL was inside:

 

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It stumped me abit as to why either MacKenzie Hall would be sending me Lowell letters or to why Lowell would use a MacKenzie Hall envelope. Lowell cant of possibly handed the debt over to MacKenzie Hall as the 1st letter i recieved about this alleged debt was only about 1-2 week ago.

 

Any ideas why this has happened??

 

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Yes it is really strange. My last alleged debt that I had with Lowell was handed to MacKenzie Hall after Lowell failed to get me the CCA but that dragged on for over a year before MacKenzie Hall admitted defeat. this has only been 1-2 weeks. The CCA request was sent to Lowell last Friday after 1 letter demanding money. Its really weird :confused:

 

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Good morning fellow CAGgers,

 

I am at present dealing with a little alleged debt with Lowell. I sent off the CCA request and yesterday recieved this envelope:

 

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I recognised the address as MacKenzie Hall (who I have defeated in the past). But when I opened the envelope the following letter from LOWELL was inside:

 

cca-letter.jpg

 

It stumped me abit as to why either MacKenzie Hall would be sending me Lowell letters or to why Lowell would use a MacKenzie Hall envelope. Lowell cant of possibly handed the debt over to MacKenzie Hall as the 1st letter i recieved about this alleged debt was only about 1-2 week ago.

 

Any ideas why this has happened??

 

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All letters that I have received from Lowell to date have the Belshill undelivered mail address on the back of the envelope.

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Strange, all of mine to press have had the leeds return address on Including the phising letter (around 3 weeks ago) and the 1st letter demanding payment (1-2 weeks). Why would Lowell want undelivered mail to go to MacKenzie Hall???

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The Bellshill address is that of an outsourcing company which prints threatomatics for a few DCAs

 

Surely this would be a breach of the DPA

 

Document Outsourcing Limited

Document House

3 Phoenix Crescent

Strathclyde Business Park

Bellshill

ML4 3NJ

 

 

 

 

 

 

Debt Management - Financial Services

 

DOL assists a number of large Debt Recovery companies in the recovery of unpaid bills and debts. In this application area, timeliness is truly linked to money. Receipt of a demand letter by the debtor is directly linked to how quickly a recovery company receives funds for its clients. We have developed a number of standard applications that allow

Quick and ready establishment of standard letters for the clients of Debt Recovery companies

High impact letters using highlight colour

Gone Away processing

Correspondence Handling

On-line web-enabled archiving

Postal Savings

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Ah so the company basically fires out standard template letters for several DCA's. Who has given this company the right to process our data?????

 

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Correction!

 

I actually have received a few letters that bear the Lowell, Leeds Royal Mail Franking Mark: N3003302; 36p & 72p 1st Class.

 

However, all computer generated template letters have arrived by Royal Mail contract post; HQ2965 2nd Class, these bear the Bellshill if undelivered return address. Presunably, DOL pass/forward the nail on...

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Some idiot had a pile of the leeds losers envelope with an MH one mixed up in it :rolleyes:

 

And it wasn't checked before posting :p

 

Somebody at a DCA wasnt checking what they were doing before sending out threat-o-grams?? But thats unheard of isn't it ;)

 

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Personally, I'd write to lowells and ask them if they're MH or the leeds losers today (schizophrenic DCAs, what more do we need) :D

 

Ha yeah I should write to them and ask who they are today. No doubt the muppets won't have a clue and it will cause havoc in the leeds office :D

 

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Ha yeah I should write to them and ask who they are today. No doubt the muppets won't have a clue and it will cause havoc in the leeds office :D

 

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Send them a photocopy of the envelope, that should give then a clue :D

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It used to be that the Leeds losers used the Glasgow envelopes for people in Scotland and Northern Ireland in a silly bid to CON them that the DCA was being more localised. Bit like pretending Red Debt is a specialist insolvency agency and Hampton Legal are a law firm when all it is is the same sh!t on different paper

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ODC your statement about Lowell/Hampton/Red..................I couldn't of put it better myself :D

 

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