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I have just phoned them and they said as far as they are aware the bills of sale are NOT null and void but they don't know too much at the moment. They asked me to send an email and they will research/clarify the point.

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Dvs you are spot on.

 

CCTV Engineer is back but calling himself People Power V Logbook. He is still spouting misinformation to confuse and cause further problems for those looking for ways out of their predicaments with Logbook Loans/Nine regions?

 

He has claimed previously to have a fictitious lawyer up his sleeve that can win cases etc but it is all hot air. He doesn't have any shining knight nor unique legal information that stands up under scrutiny. What he does have is time to spout nonsense that he can then not substantiate. Unfortunately his information defies belief but offers false hope to those in most need. I hope he stops....

 

All Bills of Sales are not null and void regardless what People Power v Logbook states.

Where has People Power appeared from? Good question....Please do not rely on his misinformation for guidance.

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Dvs you are spot on.

 

CCTV Engineer is back but calling himself People Power V Logbook. He is still spouting misinformation to confuse and cause further problems for those looking for ways out of their predicaments with Logbook Loans/Nine regions?

 

He has claimed previously to have a fictitious lawyer up his sleeve that can win cases etc but it is all hot air. He doesn't have any shining knight nor unique legal information that stands up under scrutiny. What he does have is time to spout nonsense that he can then not substantiate. Unfortunately his information defies belief but offers false hope to those in most need. I hope he stops....

 

All Bills of Sales are not null and void regardless what People Power v Logbook states.

Where has People Power appeared from? Good question....Please do not rely on his misinformation for guidance.

 

hello who ever you are

i am not cctv engineer

 

i have been dealing with log book and nine regions for some time and they lie about everything the lost there rulling on atestation this means that all bill of sales signed and witnesed by the same person on behalf of logbook or nine regions are null and void this is fact if the bill of sale has not been filed corectly it is void fact this law i am not making it up .

 

i called the high courts and asked for them to confirm and they did under atetation rules if your bill of sale was witnesned and signed by a rep from lbl or nrl they are void also i was told that they are not enforcing any action due to the other fact lbl and nrl had lost there apeal and there licence had been revocked

 

i put it to who ever dissagrees with this information probably works for nrl or lbl as they have about six months to try and collect old debts .:jaw:

 

i suggest when you call the high courts you mention the atestation issue and the fact they have lost the licence fact fact fact there is case law to back all of this up on here

 

thankyou not cctv engineer, but people power :-x

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hello who ever you are

i am not cctv engineer

 

i have been dealing with log book and nine regions for some time .

 

 

But only 7 posts?????.Still the same poor grammar and spelling mistakes as CCTV Engineer??? The same accusations that anyone who disagrees with you, works for LBL??....

 

Tom you are a cad aren't you??????????

 

You make generalisations that don't stand up under scrutiny.

 

Now stop this nonsense that other desperate individuals don't fall for your misguided advice that you fail to substantiate when challenged...Just like CCTV....who could never substantiate his statement of facts.

 

As to who I am. I'm the guy who got his Jaguar back from LBL and compensation to boot and appeared as a witness for the OFT against LBL. The guy who also posted his judgement on the CAG for others to see. WHO ARE YOU?

 

Merry Christmas CCTV!!

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But only 7 posts?????.Still the same poor grammar and spelling mistakes as CCTV Engineer??? The same accusations that anyone who disagrees with you, works for LBL??....

 

Tom you are a cad aren't you??????????

 

You make generalisations that don't stand up under scrutiny.

 

Now stop this nonsense that other desperate individuals don't fall for your misguided advice that you fail to substantiate when challenged...Just like CCTV....who could never substantiate his statement of facts.

 

As to who I am. I'm the guy who got his Jaguar back from LBL and compensation to boot and appeared as a witness for the OFT against LBL. The guy who also posted his judgement on the CAG for others to see. WHO ARE YOU?

 

Merry Christmas CCTV!!

 

hello i have beaten log book and i am not hear for a argument i am only passing info that i hope can help people i am glad i am not alone and i dont intend to misslead anyone

 

i spoke to the high courts and was told bill of sales null and void if by logbook and nine regions this came from the enforcement officer in the high courts of justice london

 

i am not writing a court letter or any other important document so not been fussy on grammar etc

 

i am only trying to help if anyone writes to the high court with proff that there bill of sale was incorect for what ever reason they are null and void i am only passing on information from the court office

 

my name is not tom or cctv or anything simular

 

merry christmas

 

no point arguing lets work together cheers

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hello i have beaten log book

 

Please post proof of how you have beaten Logbook loans so that others may benefit too?

 

Please also note that statements of facts need to be substantiated. No "enforcement officer"? is going to advise anyone that a Bill of Sale that has been registered in time at the High Court is null and Void. There may be a case that a Bill of Sale may not be valid for legal reasons but each Bill of Sale will still need to be contested in front of a judge.

 

An administrative officer will not make a blanket statement that all the Bills of Sales on its register for a certain company are null and void. It would open that individual to all sorts of claims. If you are making a personal assumption than you need to get legal precedent or confirmation in writing from the court before making such bold statements as facts.

 

It is neither helpful nor does it give comfort to those who are looking for constructive legal advice to repeat soft assertion that you parade as fact, no matter how loud you shout. Please refrain from doing so again unless you can substantiate it legally.

 

Thank you.

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hello again

 

i spoke to the court if you are not happy with the answer call them

 

i am not going around in circles if am only passing on information if people follow it up they will find out

 

dont call me a liar a officer of court from the enforcement office gave the imformation if you have a problem with this call them

 

i am not going to spend my time arguing call them if you want

 

thankyou and please dont reply until you have spoken to the court thankyou

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Thank you.

 

No response to how you beat logbook then???

 

Don't get upset with logic. I didn't call you a liar, just implying that you are misinformed.

 

The court will not substantiate your claims in a telephone call. That is not how the legal system works. Sorry but that's a fact.

 

You are also not going around in circles. You are just not substantiating your claims when asked, just like CCTV wouldn't.

 

How did you beat Logbook Loans....No answer

 

Legal precedent on all of Logbook loans Bills of Sales being null and void? None offered.

 

Please reply when you can offer and substantiate your claims.Otherwise you simply sound vacuous

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hello again

 

i am not going into how i beat logbook just giving advise on ways to help as i said call the courts they told me on the phone all lbl and nine regions null and void .

 

for personal reasons i am not prepared to talk about my personal case just try to help others

 

call them tomorow then message me i am going to call them again and ask for it in writing

 

thanks

 

:smile:

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hello again

 

i am not going into how i beat logbook just giving advise on ways to help

Why ever not? You beat logbook but don't want to say how? But you are just giving advise(sic) on ways to help? Don't you think telling people how you beat logbook helps?

 

as i said call the courts they told me on the phone all lbl and nine regions null and void .
Please give us name of the official at the court who told you that all registered Bill of Sale through Logbook Nine Regions are null and void? If it is so easy to find out, than he will not mind being named as it is public knowledge. But he wont and it isn't.

 

for personal reasons i am not prepared to talk about my personal case just try to help others
If you beat them than you will have judgement in your favour but that is not the case, is it?

If you got them to withdraw on a point of law than you can share that anonymously. But you didn't and you wont?

 

Your lack of postings and complete lack of substantiating your claim when pressed on how you managed to achieve "Beating Logbook loans " suggests otherwise.

 

call them tomorow then message me i am going to call them again and ask for it in writing

Just get a name of a court official who will substantiate your claim that all logbook loans' Bills of Sales are void
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gentleman

 

wind your necks in

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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carry on being lippy and its bye bye time

 

dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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DX Are you able to confirm whether the OP view point that all Bills of Sales from Log book loans are now null and void?

 

As a victim of the logbook loans methodology and commercial practices in the past which you are aware of, I feel that it is right and proper DX to highlight when misinformation is peddled as fact, such as in this thread. I do not take this lightly regardless of any threat to be removed from the site for questioning an inappropriate comment in the circumstances no matter from which corner it emanates from. Misinformation about Bills of Sales all being null and void when this is simply not the case and is then relied upon, causes individuals a lot of pain. Period

 

Many of us that were looking for answers in our fight previously against Logbook Loans and the recovery of our seized cars, spent many hours sifting through misinformation that was not corrected and consequently a lot of hurt and anguish was endured. That is not being lippy DX, it is a fact. CCTV and others are parading as fact misinformation that some may accept as fact and consequently will result in them losing their assets etc

 

I had my car seized unlawfully and can celebrate my first anniversary of beating Logbook Loans and being in the minority of getting more in compensation than I loaned from LBL!

There is nothing lippy about highlighting the seriousness of using misinformation in the fight against Logbook loans.

 

Merry Christmas to you and all other Caggers fighting injustice

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i certainly can remember the many happy fights postggj had with various Bill Of Sale threads.

 

then, certainly if any other employee signed it as a witness, it was totally invalid , many people got all their payments and kept or got the car back

not to pay another penny on the car finance.

 

this appears to be your situation as well.

 

as for if all are invalid - that is something for a judge to judge on.

 

i see no evdence that has happened by reading the initial post of this thread.

 

but we need to await and see

 

continuing to banter, is not the answer gentleman.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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this thread was org 2 yrs old and has been re-serected by recent events

however

it is now being closed

 

as people requiring help are posting here and getting no help

 

if you have a running issue with LBL

please start your own thread

 

dx

siteteam

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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