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I run them ragged sometimes.

I think I've failed if I can't get them to slam down the phone

on me in sheer frustration and anger. :roll:

Pretending to have attention defecit disorder + the attention

span of a goldfish works wonders...

 

......Oh look a bumble bee.......:grin:

 

Also asking them to speak very slowly and asking them to

constantly repeat things due to deafness really winds them too.

 

I was assused of being "very vague about the amount I could afford to pay" yesterday.

My reply was, "I can be as vague as I like about an unenforceable debt you claim I owe."

Needless to say, none of them are getting another penny from me

till I see some valid CCA's appearing in the mail.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

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Love it. :grin: :grin: :grin:

 

Frantically working on my script for Moorcroft later tonight,

as I'm browsing the CAG.

I think I have come up with some classic lines in answer

to some of their usual scripted questions.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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Would be interesting for a few of us to try fake name and account number with a few dca's.

What format (as in amounts of letters + numbers etc.)

 

i.e. for Moorcroft they seem have 2 Their reference which is 12 numbers long, and the client ref which is 15 numbers long.

 

Would be useful to get the fake details looking correct when we give them out.

 

Might make for an interesting OFT complaint, if one of them tries to collect from a fake account.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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The Moorcroft Saga........

 

Well I called Moorcroft and here's a transcript of what happened.

Or in Moorcrofts case...what didn't happen. :p

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Hello, MDR, Can I have your reference number please.

 

Me: 123456789

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Thank you, please hold while I access your account on my computer (speak n spell I think you mean mate.)

 

Me: Why? I have an account with you then?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Yes indeed you do. (slight pause) I need to run through some security checks with you. Mr Bobble is it?

 

Me: Yes it's Mr Bobble here. I afraid I can't run with you anywhere, I lost both legs in Desert Storm.... Landmine, blew them right off.... BOOM!!! I was one of the lucky ones. Ginger lost his head. Poor guy didn't realise till lunchtime and he had nowhere to put his sausage n mash. Roger kept getting shouted by someone on the radio. Kept going.... Are you there...Roger. It was carnage mate. It got so bad we ended up walking back to blighty with only catfood to eat for 3 weeks.

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Mr Bobble?(silence for a few seconds) What are you rambling on about? I have no interest in your war stories. I meant I have to ask you some security questions, so I can verify that you are the person who's account we hold.

 

Me: Doesn't it make your arms ache?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: (confused) What?

 

Me: Holding my account. It's been over 2 months since I last called you, your arms must be aching if you've been holding my account for so long.

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Hmmmm.....I haven't time for your games Mr Bobble. I need do these security checks so I can verify your identity.

 

Me: But I know who I am and where I live. But I need you to confirm who you are. You could be anybody for all I know. Do you do deliveries? I could murder a kebab with loads of chilli sauce.

 

Moorcroft Monkey: You called us sir. So you should already know who you're speaking to.

 

Me: How about a chicken vindaloo then? I'd like a fried egg on the top of it, if that's possible?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: You know full well who this is. You've given me your name and account number. Now stop this stupidity and answer my questions please. I don't have time for this.

 

Me: Oh yes, sorry. My memory isn't very good these days. What happened was...erm...I found a letter from you in a bin bag, so I called it, as it mentioned a debt of £700 ish and I rang to sort out you sending me the money what's owed. How much do you owe me then?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Let me get this straight...You found a letter, and are trying to pretend to be someone else?

 

Me: No, I am Mr F Bobble it has my name on the letter. The bin bag I found the letter in, was on my driveway. I think the girlfriend left it there. I nearly ran over it in the Ferrari, silly cow should have put it in the wheelie bin.

 

Moorcroft Monkey: If you have a Ferrari sir, which I doubt, then I think you should be more than able to pay us the £700 you owe. How do you intend to pay? We accept all major credit cards, so you can pay it now over the phone.

 

Me: It was credit cards that got me into my last mess to begin with. But that's another story. Once upon a time there was a gingerbread man call fuzzybobble who wasn't very good at financial management. One day h....

 

Moorcroft Monkey: You need to sort this out NOW!!

 

Me: Sorry. What were you calling about?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: The £700 you owe on the account that was passed to us by Argos.

 

Me: Oh yes, that's the one I asked both you and argos to provide a properly executed agreement for. Let me see, that was 15 working days ago now, and you both failed to provide me with what I'm legally entitled to. I'm afraid you're in default now. How naughty.

If I was ever daft enough, and legally obliged to pay you anything I would pay £5 it in 1p coins, in a box containing several lead weights and no stamp on the jiffy bag. Will that do?

 

Moorcroft Monkey: What do you mean you aren't legally obliged to pay anything? It says here you owe £700 and if it went to court you would have to pay it.

 

Me: Ooh look....A bumble bee.... (had to get that one in somewhere) :D

 

Moorcroft Monkey: What about it? You're not taking this very seriously are you Mr Bobble? I suggest you start by telling me how you intend settlling this debt you are clearly trying to avoid paying!!!! You have ten seconds. Then I will put a note on the computer that court proceedings should begin immediately.

 

Me: I'm not going to pay you a penny. Not now, Not tomorrow, Not next week, NOT EVER!!!!

 

Moorcroft Monkey: Then we will take you to court.

 

Me: Not without a valid CCA you wouldn't. Anyway, if you want to go to court, feel free and try. I would be happy to counterclaim for harassment, ilegally trying to get money from me without the proper legal documents, and processing my personal data without my permission.

 

Moorcroft Monkey: (goes on for several mins about usual DCA threats etc.)

 

Me: Well it's been very nice to talk to you. But I'm afraid you're rapidly begining to bore me. In fact you bore me so much that I've eaten my own head and I've fallen asleep....zzzzzzzzzzz

 

 

 

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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Don't wait for them to ring you. Phone them lol.

May cost a few pence, but well worth it for the fun and games

you can get from it.

 

I'm longing for the day when I ring a DCA and they say to me.

"I will only communicate with you in writing." and hang up on me. :D

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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He has?????

 

 

We're not worthy!!! We're not worthy!!! :D :D :D

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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Hi all.

 

I posted this in the beer garden just before i found this thread.

 

My partners quick way of getting rid of a DCA- He says it works.

 

Looks like I'm going to have to do another call to Moorcroft again.

Just need to dream up some really extreme fetish in the meantime.

 

I like it when a DCA muppet demands money from me in "that tone of voice" they so like to use. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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I use my old bank card for scraping the frost off the car window.

It's all it's good for at the moment lol.

Got major dispute going on with Abbey at the moment.

Waiting for court date that they delayed with a stay, then the

cheeky monkeys have sent a disputed account to two different

DCA's in 2 months. Needless to say I have sent complaint letters

to all 3 companies + FOS, & TS.

 

Think Trading Standards will know me on first name terms soon lol.

Already pestering them with confetti complaints about Halifax.

Sent them 2 harassment by phone letters and they still insist on calling me 3 times a week. Every time I say "in writing only please" but they keep ignoring me. So got TS on the case. Should be hearing from them soon. Every week I've been sending them an update to the list of calls from Halifax lol.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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My reaction to them will be..."Oh i cant understand how that can be" :D

 

 

Priceless :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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dare you to ask if they accept IOU notes. Or the one I wan't to use next time I call them.

 

"I can print out £20 notes on my new printer. Can I send you some of those?"

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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I dont see what is the point of them saying that the call is being recorded, after all its not against the law if you wish you to use aload of expletives down the phone at them or talk to them in a funny way.

They seem to be under the impression that its something your not allowed to do :rolleyes:

 

Awww, and I always thought I was being big and hard by swearing at them. Oh well, on to bigger, better and more mature things I suppose.

It's like taking the pee out of dwarfs with a low IQ. It's not big, and it's not clever. ;)

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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I went for an interview when I was desperate for a job a few years back. Turned out to be Moorcroft of all the places in the UK. (How ironic for me. ) lol :eek: erm lol (I hate them with a passion due to two of my accounts and one of my girlfriends being with them.) They said I was over qualified and turned me down. Ha ha. So filled in application for Maccy D's out of sheer desperation instead . Got offered the job, but turned it down due to moral standards + actually caring about the young people who are the so called "future of Britain". (for what good it will do us in the end lol.)

 

The moral of this story......"If you work for DCA then unemployment should be considered a positive career move." :D

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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It's good that DCA staff don't have an IQ.

Just leaves an open door for the few on here that have posted funny DCA calls etc.

 

I really hope it shows others that read the more amusing threads, that there's nothing to be scared of, and to stand up to them. + Expose them for the con merchants they really are for trying to profit from the vunerable, and decent people, who have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own.

 

Life is hard enough as it is without these parasites preying on decent people who just want to live life as best they can under the circumstances.

 

One day hopefully the law will fully protect those people. Until then...

 

Spread the word and post links to the fun threads on CAG. (Plus links to template letters and useful advice too.)

 

If you can smile when life is tough, and then get some good advice on here. Plus if you can give a little back in return, then we have all acheived something good. And hopefully smile about it afterwards.

 

Worrying about DCA threatening letters should be at the bottom of the list of lifes worries.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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I was a newbie once.

Thanks to the CAG it's given me and my girlfriend a new start in life, that we wouldn't have had otherwise.

I just wish the CAG had more mainstream media coverage, cause there's a lot of people out there that still get suckered in by DCA's and companies that prey on peoples lack of knowledge of the law and what they are really entitled to.

CAG is the beginning of a new era, where once again the customer is king and companies respect that to stay in business. Sooner it comes the better.

 

For the time being, keep going and support what is right, and one day the customer will be king again.

 

"Power to the People" Wolfie Smith 1977

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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Yep, have to agree with you both 100%

 

The CAG should make peeps realise there's nothing to be scared of and push for more media attention to show people that there's nothing to be scared of.

 

When me and my girlfriend get our bank charges refunded, we'll be making big donations so the CAG can continue. We would donate now, but are both struggling to pay basic bills at the mo.

my pride and joy (Carlos Sainz Celica gt-four) is off the road due to not being able to afford a £60 part for it. :sad: Only cost £3000 2 years ago, but it's my baby.

 

I love this website and always give the site address to anyone I meet who needs some help.

 

The CAG is a true voice of hope in a country who's media and government promotes bad news and dispare as a norm.

But for many talented people, just affording to survive is all you can ever aspire to acheive if you live here.

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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We're all in the same boat folks. That's why we're here after all.

 

When the banks have to pay back all they've taken from us.

then I'm sure the CAG will get tons of donations and thank you messages.

 

Quite right they do too, as the people who set up CAG are true

hero's and well deserve at the very least media attention and

a knighthood for their services to the people of this country.

 

It's only fair that we start a thread (that's made a sticky on the frontpage) also petitions etc, so the people behind the CAG get the full recognition they so rightfully deserve for all the hard work they've done over the years.

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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Had the following call 10 mins ago.....

 

Hello this is David from Halifax, can I speak to Mr Fuzzy Bobble?

 

Me: Yes, speaking (after 3 cans of carling I may add)

 

Halifax Dave: I need to confirm a few details before I can continue.

 

Me: ok, go ahead matey. (covers mouth to hide laughter)

 

Halifax Dave: Can you confirm the first line of your address?

 

Me: Can you confirm you're a W***ker from Halifax and trying to persue me for an alleged debt you cannot persure an alledged debt for?

 

Halifax Dave: WHAT?????

 

Me: No properly executed Credit agreement has been sent, even though I requested it over 14 working days ago. Or in simple language that you will understand. F*** Off and never call me again you pathetic mimimum wage earning parasite......

...If you're recording this I want a copy of so I can play it to my friends at the pub.

 

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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Ive made a donation, not much but it all helps.

 

Flick x

 

Every little helps Flick.

"from little acorns, mighty oak trees grow"

 

On here there's lots of little acorns, but together we can

make a huge difference if we stick together.

 

Good luck

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

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I thought that too, but when have DCA's ever followed the OFT guidelines and the law for that matter.

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

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Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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Pound of Flesh Ltd lol, can't type for laughing...brilll lol :D :D :D

 

Wow what a great name for a DCA.

 

Bet Mr Moorcroft and Mr Cabot wish they had thought that one up.

 

Ok, am going to start my own DCA now you've inspired me for a name.

 

The New Name.....

 

 

Shirt off your back Ltd....If it's ok with you. inc

 

Non profit making company, so I can comply with OFT guidelines. :rolleyes:

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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Hee hee, looks like Mr F Bobble and Mr L Brummie

have some new scripts to have a go at. :grin:

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Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

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lol brilliant :grin:

 

I sent Eversheds a letter for non CCA compliance + disputing what they did send as not a true copy of the so called agreement. They obviously got the letter today as I had no less than 9 calls in the space of half an hour. First time I was polite and said, communication in writing only please. Then rapidly degenerating into..."Is that Mr F Bobble?"...Yes it is...."can I confirm a few security details with you?....."Sorry, but Mr F Bobble died in a car accident 2 weeks ago." Then the cheeky gits call again 3 mins later, but by then I had gone to the pub and left my mum to give them some verbal abuse. (my mum is brill at that sort of thing.)

 

(on the way to the pub I posted them the "harassment by telephone" template letter .)

 

CAG wins yet again :grin:

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These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZBULlWW6Q&feature=related

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That will be me then.

Do I get a prize? ;)

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZBULlWW6Q&feature=related

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That's a dodgy tactic that is Hostage, suppose he'd turned out to be gay himself?!!!

 

Regards.

 

Fred

 

Well he would have been shafted by the DCA and the call centre bloke all in one go. :grin:

 

I'm off, I can hear the CAGBOT in the corridor outside my door......

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZBULlWW6Q&feature=related

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Probably Jehovas's Witnesses. My Gran waved a carving knife at one through the kitchen window while she was carving the sunday roast. 5 years later and they've not been back.

Like garlic bread, it may be the future.

 

 

 

 

Or like oral sex, the taste of things to come........

 

These are video links to show how I deal with Debt Collectors.

 

Fly fishing for C.A.R.S

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtzK8FqE6k&feature=related

 

Frederickson International don't accept my card type

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZBULlWW6Q&feature=related

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