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i have actually done this before and was settled in Full

 

but things seemed to have changed alittle

 

i became unemployed in December 08 so decided to go to the Halifax with the hardship approach, they have responded with a "Common Financial Statment" that they think i shpuld complete

 

i would like to know what to do know

 

do i complete this form or do i proceed in another way

 

Thanks in Advance

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Hi, Krusty.

 

There's a link here re : Hardship, you should fill in the form and send it back.

 

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/48-bank-templates/117-letter-for-an-application-for-consideration-for-hardship.html

 

Regards.

 

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Thanks, but i dont have a claim reference, do i just use there reference Number

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Yes, I would think so.

 

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stage 2, ta, XL Done, letter ready, ta

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Good stuff, let us know how you get on.

 

Regards.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

20 days and i've heard nothing

 

i would have expected a reply

 

 

what do i do now

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Hi, Krusty.

 

Think you'll have to wait a bit longer.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

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You think there a bit busy at the moment :-)

 

i'll wait a while more then

 

thanks for the patients

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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  • 2 weeks later...

i have finally had a response and they are arguing my Common Finacial Statement

 

 

am i supposed to write back trying to explain my every finanical movement over the 3 months i was unemployed or can i no move on

 

i feel they are just trying to delay me

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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i have rather boringly gone through it all again in another letter, with statements showing my hardship

 

lets see where this goes

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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I'm in the same boat, the Halifax simply refuse to acknowledge I'm in hardship despite sending several letters and statements, and the fact I've been unemployed for over 2 years and unable to claim benefit :mad:

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  • 4 weeks later...

i have recieved a letter now simply saying that i did not suffer hardship so are not going to deal with me

 

 

i wish to start court action, this will need to be done at the courts and not online i believe

 

which forms are required

 

what is the process now

 

thanks

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Hi,

 

Here's the step-by-step.............

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/31460-example-step-step-instructions.html

 

And yes, It's better to file at your local county court.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

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perfect, thanks

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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(7)

 

The bank will now either....

 

It is likely the bank will now apply for a stay pending the final outcome from the OFT litigation. Alternatively the court may well stay the claim itself. You will just need to ensure that you file any communications from the court or the bank in a safe place and ensure you comply with any directions from the court particularly those relating to when you must apply to have the stay lifted.

So, if the bank returns a "stay of Claim" with the above, are we just claimants in waiting?

 

just trying to clear it in my head

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Yes, but I'd rather my claim was with the court, and not with the Bank.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

Any advice I give is honest and in good faith.:)

If in doubt, you should seek the opinion of a Qualified Professional.

If you can, please donate to this site.

Help keep it up and active, helping people like you.

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  • 4 weeks later...

they ignored the premlim letter

 

stage two LBA sending tomorrow

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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they ignored the premlim letter

 

stage two LBA sending tomorrow

You mentioned financial hardship.

Do you have priority debt arrears(mortgage/rent, council tax, utilities)?

Is there any payment arrangements to clear the priority debt arrears?

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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You mentioned financial hardship.

Do you have priority debt arrears(mortgage/rent, council tax, utilities)?

Is there any payment arrangements to clear the priority debt arrears?

 

Not now

 

When i first contacted the bank, i was unemployed

 

i had 3 months out of work with no regular income to pay my way

 

someone did help me out, so i still owe them but it allowed me to stay

just within my overdraft, therefore thay have stated that i was not in hardship

 

i proceeded in the normal Premlim, LBA fashion

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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Not now

 

When i first contacted the bank, i was unemployed

 

i had 3 months out of work with no regular income to pay my way

 

someone did help me out, so i still owe them but it allowed me to stay

just within my overdraft, therefore thay have stated that i was not in hardship

 

i proceeded in the normal Premlim, LBA fashion

You can, but this is not now a hardship claim anymore, right?

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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correct

Halifax - £4000.00 +

01/09/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

05/09/06 - Standard Reply

07/09/06 - Phone Offer £362, accepted as partial payment only

09/09/06 - Letter, revised offer £1039, accepted as partial payment only

13/09/06 - LBA sent (special delivery)

20/09/06 - Ombudsman letter recieved

27/09/06 - Moneyclaim online for £4900

04/10/06 - I WON I WON

10/10/06 - Money in the bank

Nationwide ERC - £1000.00

16/10/06 - Prelim letter sent (special delivery)

31/10/06 - Revised LBA sent

23/11/06 - Moneyclaim online for £1100

held by the courts

Halifax - £800

05/06/09 - Prelim letter sent

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