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Typical Abbey staling again.

 

This is a tactic they have used time and time again.

They DO have a requirement under the DPA to let you have information that is inteligible.

They cannot charge you more than 10.00 to supply this so dont have non of it.

 

If they dont supply within the 40 days they are in breach.

 

There are other cases which have had the same response.

Have a look at some of the Abbey threads.

 

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Actually heres a better idea.

 

Alan from Derby covered this nicely and will answer your question by reading this

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/4031-abbey-microfiche-argument.html

 

 

;)

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Martin many thanks will download ur letter and send on will let u know what happens

 

 

Not my letter..........Alans ......a guy with a wealth of experience.

 

Should do the trick nicely.

 

 

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dont forget its your choice to push on with the next stage if you wish,and have a substantial amount to claim.

You can make them aware in the prelim letter that you are definately going for the x amount you are aware of and inform them that you will be claiming any additional charges if you find these have been applied on the data still to be supplied.

 

:D

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Good thinking Murph.

You will find people more than willing to assist you with any questions......we know a lot about Abbey on here because of their stubborness and contempt in the way they have responded to claimants theres an awful lot of stuff been posted.

 

Good to see you onboard.

 

 

;)

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Martin's right if we all inform each other of their tactics we can be one step ahead of them. When I think of the times I have been to the bank and they have taken all my money out and I have had to wait for them to refund it back. e.g £145 for a DD and kept it 2 days, then charged me because the DD was for £146.50 and still not paid DD. Even though you dont have enough in the account they will take what ever is in there hold it for afew days so you cant get at it and then refund it into your acount, informing you it has'nt been paid but hey don't despair we are charging you £35 for not paying it because you were £1.50p short. Bleep Bleep Bleep. No more Abbey National.

 

And another thing they do, I have my Child Benefit paid in monthly, and I cant remeber the last time I had any of it, because my Bank charges always always come out on the day my Child Benefit goes in. I have 3 children so get around £150 a month I dont get it Shabby Abbey gets it. Has anyone else noticed this?.

 

Sorry For Ranting - But we have had to do without food sometimes because of there tactics.

 

I will be defineately making a donation to this site if, sorry WHEN i succeed.

 

 

I been through this myself as then was a single parent with custody (now referred to as care and control) of my son.

I was on working tax credit and family allowance both being bacs transferre.

Looking at the statements I have both were literally confiscated by the bank.

On a thread I been looking at recently here I have seen there is something you can send to them to stop them touching your benefits by sending them a letter listing what this money will be needed for.

I thought I had bookmarked it but cant find.............

 

 

 

:rolleyes:

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Thats the one I hve even saw a temp letter

 

 

 

Where dya go from herE ????

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Sandra you will be best starting a thread of your own in the Abbey section of the site.

These are really questions you can easily find the answers to.

Have a good read through other Abbey posts and you wont go far wrong !!

 

By all means feel free to ask questions as you go along if you cant find these answers.........but I am pretty certain you will do

 

 

 

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Did you request this with a Dpa ?

If so then they are in breach as its incomplete.

You should write to them straight away and complain they are in breach of non compliance and you demand ALL transaction information.

How long is the deadline off the 40 days ?

Alternatively you can call them using the number on the letter supplied with the statements and simply tell them you want the rest or will be filing a complaint for non compliance.

You do not have to enter dialogue about the account issues.

 

Up to you which way to go

 

:)

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Hi

 

The letter I sent was the Data Protection Act letter. I sent it on the 10th June. I sent the letter ( Alan's Letter From Derby ) afew days ago. Dont really fancy talking to them so I will send another letter telling them they have 7 days to comply to the DPA. Wait and see what response I get.

 

Thanks.....:-D

 

Alans letters usually do the job !!

 

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Hey guys,:rolleyes:

 

Been following through your posts with interest !! I've just started the process today, so your experiences have really helped me. I also accept that the process is deliberately made harder by Abbey so that x% od claimants will give up before they get anywhere. :evil:

 

If I ever do get my info through from Abbey (why on earth did I ever call my little girl Abby??)I will post progress to help anyone else who is wondering whether or not to proceed. I waited too long while I dithered so am now taking the bull by the horns and it's thanks to all you others out there!!!

 

p.s I love these smileys!!:eek: :o :o

 

 

Despite their fame, Abbey have not managed to deterre many who WANT to claim from doing so.

Of course waiting is what they would like everyone to do.

The testimonials on this site will affirm that Abbey are not beyond reproach as none of the others are.

However in standing a good chance to join the many who have won their claims against Abbey then you will need to continue to read up,continue to follow others and also start your own thread.

If you do all this it will go a long way towards seeing YOU get a result !

 

:)

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You can estimate them if there is a pattern of info,or where you know a rough idea.

 

Many of the banks tho leave it until the 11th hour.

I have had 2 lots of statements sent to me on the 40th day.

 

They have got 40 days legally tho so only if you are fairly sure,because if you are way out then they could argue later that you never gave them the 40 days.

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Thanks Martin..... I have got my own thread (but nobody is talking to me tonite), so I went on out there and thanked someone I felt had helped me after I had read their tale!!!:p

 

 

Awww Im sure you arent being ignored.......in fact I am going to your thread right away ha ha

 

:)

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You can either pursue with what you have and send the faliure to respond with complete trans details (letter in the banks temp folder)

 

Or just send the letter and await the rest.

 

Or you could estimate the missing details adding to the ones you have,and ahgain carry on to next stage but still send the letter.

 

up to you.

 

 

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Murph its difficult for me to say on the figure since I dont know whether the consistency was there across the board with your account.

Each to their own.

For example I got my bank statements and saw that there were no charges early on......and none in the last 7 months,

I look back thinking yeah there was reasons for that.

I had a rough idea what the charges might be when I sent for my statements but I was a mile out when they came.

You will know better than me ....or anyone what you reckon yours should be.

 

Having said that its always suggested on here that you should do the estimated and carry on.

 

Later you can haggle here and there.

 

If the figure is looking quite realistic and you could show how you had estimated the figure then no problems.

 

At the end of the day you are going on figures you already know to be true.

 

You still have time before the court stage to try and get the true figures and I would go down that road.

 

If all else fails tho then go with your estimate......keeping it under the 5 grand

 

Maybe someone here can also add to the post who have gone down the estimate road too...

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They are lifted from MF to paper data.

 

Under terms of the dpa data supplied should be clear and intelligible.

I have not seen their MF generated statements but due to the numbers who have,and then gone on to claim...then they must be ok to work out.

 

I think they would have to let you have these following Alans letter,he devised it specifically to address this issue,and they cannot dispute it.

 

As with Barclays Abbey are renowned for 11th hour responses so wait the 40 days then see what happens.

My feeling is that you will get them..........probably on the 40th day.

 

;)

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I dont very often suggest dealing with them by telephone,but I think it may be an idea to call them and ask whats going on.

 

If you are not happy after that,then its a complaint to the IC and/or a court case to force them to comply.

 

The only other option to you is an estimated claim.

You could argue that you have been forced to do an estimated based on their refusals to give you the info.

 

Call them on Monday.......go straight through to the data controller and ask them what they are playing at.

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your call the choice will be yours.

You have a decent figure there to get you started and with interest and costs that will bump it up to a nice claim.

 

If the other years are mirrored to this you could be in for another good un.

 

 

The 5 grand tops is exclusive of interest but includes the court fee.

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Well you have been very patient in the face of it.

Just follow through with what you have.

 

:)

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dont worry if you made a mistake.........send a revised charges schedule no need to explain.

 

important thing is that its right for court.

 

Keep goin .......your doin fine !;)

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no probs

 

you too.

 

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