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    • I contacted Sanctury housing in August 2023 after informing them my father in law who had Dementia had moved into a Nursing home December 2022. We kept the flat for 8 months until such a time we could accomodate some of his furniture that my wife wanted to keep. I contacted them in August 2023 to let them know the situation by email as I was the named person that could speak on his behalf. I informed them that we had left it to late for POT and were seeing a solicitor for Deputyship of his financies. I asked them what information would they need in order to give notice on the flat and we could provide details of his condition and nursing home. This went ignored I left it a month and then called them October 2023. I was promised a call back from a manager over the next few days. This never happened and it was end of November when I contacted them again and they had no record of me calling them. I explained the email and again I was told the local manager to the area would call me. This never happened and I ended up emailing them in January 2024 with a copy of the email from August. Again this went ignored and I had explained to them that we couldn't just go to the bank and stop the DD as we had tried. This email again went ignored. I then had a letter written to our home address in February asking us to get in contact with them (local manager) as they were concerend nobody was living in the flat. He had an email address so I copied in the last 2 emails to say I had been trying to give notice since August 2023. I also stated that I would like the rent that was paid from August 2023 refunded back to his account as I had officially tried to give notice then and it went ignored. He replied to us about wanting to look at the flat then notice could be given once he had contacted the nursing home to confirm he was actually living there now. Notice was giving for the 22 March 2024 and this would be when rent would stop and no further payment would be taken by this point. The fact I asked to be back dated went ignored. I have since noticed on 2 banks statement for April and May that they are still taking Rent payments of £501 from his bank. Further to this which seems very strange. He was with Eon Next for his utility bill again we were having problems getting this stopped as they needed a named person on his account which there wasn't one despite me managing his online account for him. I didn't check the email address that often that I used to set it up and went to check as noticed the credit he had built up with not living there was all getting refunded in February. The email said £600 would be refunded to his account with a (sorry you are leaving us message) but how can he leave as nobody but himself had access to speak with them. I also noticed the lady in the flat above him had a letter from her bank sent to his address with his address details but his name which was dated 4th March well before we had given notice and it said (thank you for giving us your new address details) we have set all this up for your account.   So Sanctuary housing must have been aware he wasn't living there from the ignored emails for the lady above to start changing address details to move into his flat before the housing manager had even got in contact to ask if anyone was living there. What I basically want to know his do we have any legal standing to claim the rent back from when I first contacted them in August 2023? There is roughly £3000 to come back  
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Sea Horse will probably be along shortly but King's Hill No 1 Ltd is indeed a dormant company. It is now known as Cabot Financial (UK)Ltd so how they have raised court papers against you is interesting to start with.

 

You must defend this. But you may need to tell the court it is in dispute when you enter your defence.

 

You need Cabot to supply the original executed agreement between yourself and the original letter, a letter of assignment of the debt and full statements. Send a request under the Consumer Credit Act (templates on this site) with a cheque for £1. They have to send you this within 12 days.

 

When you get this examine the agreement and make sure it is an agreement and not an application form. Do all this tonight and send it all signed for and keep receipts. You should also add the line that you do not recognise a debt with Kings Hill.?

 

What is going on here? How can KH have started the court proceedings?

You must read the two threads mentioned here and it will become clear what you are dealing with.

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PS They will only be able to get a CCJ against you if you don't defend and don't turn up at the court so take control of this.

Also do you have a property? If so they have been trawling around the land registry looking for people with properties so they can put a charge on the house. But don't worry they are a but of complete muppets...with everyone's help you will be able to fight back.

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Did the Judge order Cabot to release the DOA to you? If so what else did they send you? If Judge ordered disclosure you can ask for any information you need and they have to supply it.

Why did Morgan Stanley say they are part of the same company? It really is worrying how these employees know zilch about the law and even who they work for.

Also it isn't the DOA that is an executed copy I think you mean a copy of the original executed agreement.

And yes the original creditor should have sent you a notice of assignment and Cabot too.

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When is your hearing set for? I would probably do the following:

Go over the entire paperwork you have in front of you and dissect it word for word and as you go draw up a list of points where you disagree with them.

Also post your contract on the CCAthread on here (I think it's in general forum) as there are a lot of people with experience of these contracts. I couldn't see it very well but does it say application form or agreement?

As to the DOA it sounds like it proves nothing if there is nothing specific to you.

Add to your list the fact that the default was registered a whole year before you heard from these people.

If in doubt of next move with the court either call them or go and see them. They will usually tell you what will happen next.

I am not sure if you have been to court yet or if the DJ is just doing this all on paper.

Keep posting and people will drop by with extra info I am sure.

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There is also a lot of errors on all the docs , my address is slighlty wrong on the statements and on the back of the DOA was stapled a sheet with my name ,acc number and balance of which the account number and balance does not match the account statements. Also i have noticed that the Default registered with Equifax was registered over a year before they claim to have purchased the debt.Cabot appear to have sent all the details by the cut off date (last Thursday ) should i send a letter to the courts pointing out all these errors?

 

I meant to add contest all of this in a letter to the court. Do not admit to anything at all. It is up to them to prove it.

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What's this all about. Surely the Judge knows that they have to rpoduce a copy of the original executed agreement in court in order to rule whether the debt is enforceable or not?

Statements? Anyone can produce a copy of a statement using a pc or is he inviting them to unravel in court. V strange you need to educate the Judge what is accepted in a properly executed agreement.

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Just like to add my well done message. From looking pretty worrying you have turned this around brilliantly and all by using the CCA against these shysters. Keep up the pressure. You may have felt even like giving up but this shows why you shouldn't. Bring Cabot and their dodgy dealings to book.

CFC RULES!!!

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Are you leaving it there mrrj? Or do you intend chasing them for harrssment, illegally sharing your personal data etc etc?

(Good work by the way)

PS I suspect the prospect of their having to give a sworn affadavit must have clarified their thinking. Hope the compliants to FOS etc etc are on their way. I agree with Elizabeth this needs to be a sticky on the Cabot sub-forum.

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