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    • Honestly you are all amazing on this site, thank you so much for your help and time. ill keep an eye out and only return when i receive a claim letter for sure also, i updated my address with amex and tsb before i even missed payments. the initial address was my family home but i dont reside there. to avoid a bombardment of letters there i have now updated my address, will they send all threats etc to the new address? Or old address?   do you reccomend i send both tsb and amex my update in address via a letter?
    • Your point 4 deals with that and puts them to strict proof .....but realistically they are not in a position to state that within their particulars they were not the creditor at the time of default but naturally assume the OC would have...so always worth challenging and if you get a DJ who knows his onions on the day may ask for further evidence from the OC internal accounts system. 
    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
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I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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am i right in thinking you are talking about another claim you might do involving older charges - because this claimthat you've got going now, once filed, you should leave as is unless it's really a big mistake -

i think you mean you might claim again, yes?

is your breakdown all done and saved for this claim?

 

if you are going further back - you could put them on a s/s and use today's date - to get a general idea of what is owed - but as pd rightly says - when you are actually getting ready to file - you would do it for the filing date to get a spot on number.

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OOoohhh thank god for that

 

Just read your post, very detailed lattie hun, you really know your stuff!

 

Its a good job we have someone like you on this site. Were you an employee of the bank or something??

 

Thankx again for all the info. Getting a tad excited now at prospect of thousands of pounds coming my way!

 

Jo x:p

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jo, up until i claimed back 2,280 pounds for my son last summer - i never knew any of this lba,aq,mcol,spreadsheet, absolutely nothing - it's all what i call regurgitated info - i'm just a helpful little old lady and i like watching you all get your money back - when they say it's all here on the site - it's true - that's where i got all of it! but thanks, and good luck!

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OOoooohhhhh starting to feel jittery now.

 

MCOL is up on wednesday! Not heard a thing as yet.....will there be anything in the post tomorrow??

 

Keep thinking this isnt going to be as straightforward as simply paying me my £8363 back (from 2 accounts!). Feeling quite sick at the thought and that I'll be plastered all over the newspapers or something.

 

I know everyone else has probably felt like this too, doesnt make it any easier tho.

 

All my family is using me as a testing ground...well if they pay Jo up they'll definatley pay us up! Nice family hey!!

 

ewewwwww 3 days to go!

 

Jo :eek:

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Hi, in my experience (and everyone elses by the look of things) i wouldnt pay much attention to ANY deadlines as it sems dg can file as and when they please including defence and aq (for those that are still getting them) as a general rule of thumb they will file a defence at the last minute (b'stards) after which mcol wont let you do anything further as it will then be transfered to your local court. after which an aq might be sent (altho it seems like im the only one lately that had to file an aq :( ) then (in my case) after the time has run out for them to file, and just when you think you will win by default they file (again as and when THEY please it seems)

BUT the good news is you will win and you will get your money back (or so im led to believe - im getting seriously peed of now with their delaying tactics i seriously feel like adding another £1000 in damages to my claim and saying if you dont like it ill see you in court)

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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Thanks Lattie,

 

Was feeling a bit low about it all and nervous but since reading PO's postings I feel excited now.

 

I've read all about the new AQ things. Did that the other week. They must be sooooo inundated from this site, DG better take on some extra staff I think ;)

 

love Jo

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Where as the likes of you and I stick to the time limits to the second it seems like dg can do what they want when they want. you mat get a chance to click the judgement by default button but I have not seen any others recently. They will probably defend at the last minute as usual. Keep checking the status on line. Good luck. And I hope your not feeling di.. sorry i mean sick anymore! Lol:D

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Yes they could well defend that late. And I am sure I have read somewhere that they have been given extra time to defend but lattie, netty, castlebest or one of the other genius' on this site will be able to tell you more. Just sit tight for the time being and see what happens.

You are in a bad way, feeling d.. sorry, sick, and about to wet yourself! Could get very messy at your house today! LOL:lol:

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So just to recap, I cant press the judgement button until after 5pm today?

 

OOOhhhhh this is sooo exciting. As if my life wasnt exciting enough! Had a letter this morning to say I'd qualified for an all-epenses paid long weekend trip to Cannes with the company!!

 

Bring it on! need the money to go along with the trip now :p

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It actually isnt the best thing to go for judgement, this will just mean an application for a stay, delay delay delay.... we know how good these lot are at that.

It is much better, and would be quicker for you if you can pursuade them to pop in a defense.

If you dont get a defense put in (which they normally do at the very very very last nanosecond possible) give 'em a quick ring... gee 'em up a bit :-D

 

feel dick, its mcol day today. The bank has until today to pay up?

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