Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

WWW.MOUNTBATTENCARSALES.CO.UK/Close Brothers - Faulty car


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 299 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

The agreement is still live and not been defaulted ,(as yet)

personally I would VT the agreement ( without knowing the exact figures ,your max liability would be around £1500 of the monies that you won)


and then argue that balance and car condition out with Close Brothers , at least any liability will be capped and your credit file protected

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Depends on whether or not you wish to preserve your credit file or whether you can manage to get Close Brothers to meet their obligations to you 


IMO you are inviting open ended risk by not VTing the agreement whilst you are still able to do so


Not saying you should pay anything at this stage but at least you would be in control of events 

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Certainly would be getting quotes to see what the vehicle is worth
You do realise talking VT here and NOT VS

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 4 months later...

So the judgement specifically states that the agreement is void?
Personally I think you should have asked for advice on the wording of the POC

  • Like 1

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Firstly the matter could have been settled byVT as advised at a profit
Second the initial judgment is purely a money judgment nothing more 
The wording of the POC of the second claim is so poor that CB could take it apart 
The agreement is not void
No reference has even been made to CCA1974
 

Feb 21
IMO you are inviting open ended risk by not VTing the agreementwhilst you are still able to do so”

Edited by theoldrouge
  • Like 2

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In addition to the above has the agreement been defaulted and terminated?

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

If the agreement has not been defaulted and terminated, it beggars belief that you don’t get on and VT the agreement 
You will be in profit 
And rid of the car 
Going to a solicitor to take on your case will soon put you in an unquantifiable loss situation 

  • Like 2

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you researched VT
Where do you get the figure of £6000 from???

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

PLEASE just answer the following three questions 

1)Has the agreement been defaulted and terminated?
2)What is the TOTAL of the agreement?
(exact figure please from your agreement)
3)How much INCLUDING the deposit have you paid? (EXACT figure please)
 

don’t complicate matters just answer the above three questions 

Edited by theoldrouge
Additional words
  • Like 2

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

God nothings ever simple on this thread 🤬
 

However let’s try and work with what we have got
Total agreement £11662
You have paid towards agreement £5344
(11662-6318)
50%of agreement £5831
So amount to complete VT and end problems 
 

£487!!!!!!!  

 

So all we need to do is for you to answer point no1 as @dx100ukhas requested in order to see if your agreement is still eligible for VT
 

 

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

OK so slight differences in the figures as you originally said

£6318 left to pay so take that from £11662 would mean you had paid £5344 but now you say inc deposit you have paid £5023 towards the agreement with any interest adjustment as dx says your max liability is £808. What the car fetches at auction is neither here nor there to you as you do not receive any money from the sale, It all goes to CB to help towards their considerable losses


Normally I would advise sending a SAR to double check for a Default However in your case personally I would just get on with it as if CB realise what has happened they may issue a DN pretty quick , You need to realise you have been exceptionally lucky so far and could walk away from this mess with a profit of £1500 to £2000


My advice would be GET ON WITH IT


Click VT for information 

  • Like 2

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

All you need to do is to send the VT letter stating that the agreement will terminate on  xx/xx/2023,

that they then must collect their car for which no charge can be levied for collection


If and when they invoice you we can then deal with that


You will only be paying that which is necessary to bring the amount paid to 50% of the agreement 
All finance companies hate VT and are full of bluster

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...