VCS 2*windscreen PCN's Claimform - Monty Hind Car Park Nottingham NG7 2LX, Leengate Staff and Visitor Car Park Nottingham NG72LX

[ats101]

Hello all,

 

Today I was sent two letters to my parent's house from dcbl both asking for £160. 

 

This used to be my address but I have moved away since.

My mum opens my post and sends me photos of the enclosed via Whatsapp.

 

This may or may not be in regards to parking offences dating back to 2015-2017- they have sent me no information on the matter at all, no photo of my car, no information about location, reg plate etc - they might have sent me these 3-4 years back but obviously I cannot recall much from then. 

 

I paid one of these last month thinking that this would stop.

I have a feeling that because they are aware that I have paid these charges before, they maybe targeting me as they feel I will just cough up. 

 

I don't want this amounting to a CCJ. 

 

I would appreciate some advice in regards to responding to these letters.

 

Thank you.

 

 

DCBL letter 1-10-20 (£160).pdf

[ats101]

Thanks for the reply Dave. 

 

The reason why I am so concerned about CCJs is that I have been sanctioned with two in 2015 and 16.

This happened because on university campus, I got a parking ticket whilst my car was stuck in snow.

 

after doing some research on the net,

I ignored all the letters that came through the post and you could even see the steadily increasing charge amount.

I ignored the CCJ that came through not realising what it can do to ones CR. 

 

Since then I have paid everything off - heck, I even gave £80-90 to Harlands. 

 

What I am saying is, I rather respond in some way than ignore everything with the same outcome as above. 

 

 

[ats101]

I have had a look at the PCN. I looks like a genuine ticket I got from where I worked. 

 

On the VCS website it says the charge amount is £100, but when I go to pay, it doesn't let me as of course its been passed on. 

 

How do you guys think I should play this?

 

Also, I have learnt from my mistakes. Back then, I thought the CCJ was another scare tactic. 

 

Thank you.

 

 

[ats101]

Thanks once again for the reply and apologies for being inconsistent. 

 

To answer the above questions:

 

- I will keep the address the same given that I am in the process of moving house. I am happy with my mum forwarding me the post. 

 

- I received TWO separate letters from DCBL yesterday. They are identical apart from the DCBL reference number and VCS reference number. 

 

- In regards to the parking PCN. I don't physically have this but I know it was left on the window of the car. 

 

 

I take your point not to pay blindly. I will fill out the info template during my break.

 

Thank you. 

[ats101]

'Who ever pays PPC's ???'

 

This is the attitude I once had. 

 

I want to respond to these accordingly to see where I stand. 

 

dx100uk:

 

I understand the take home message not to pay blindly and I have taken notice of your signature. 

 

Thanks. 

[ats101]

Thanks Dave,

 

So I will get a SAR request to them by post with proof of postage.

 

I have just read the following from MSE:

 

 'and a list of all PCNs outstanding against you and/or this VRN, and remind them that any claim must be for all PCNs, not several separate claims' - this is again relating to requesting SAR

 

So the plan of action it to SAR, find out what information that have on me and then I will post on here for some feedback. 

 

Anything to add?

 

 

 

 

[ats101]

I wouldn't say move. When COVID wasn't on a killing spree, I went back to this address on a two weekly/ monthly basis.

 

I still consider this my base however.

I live elsewhere in rented accommodation hence why I am in the process of buying/ moving house.

 

Why do you ask? 

 

'As seen on TV. Can't pay, we'll take it away' Is that what you mean? lol 

[ats101]

Appreciate that fella. 

 

Yes, I assure it gets to me as a matter of urgency.

 

Just been to the post office and SAR sent first class to VCS with proof of postage. 

 

Thanks. 

[ats101]

Hi, 

 

An update:

 

 I have received the SAR.

 

They have 4 separate PCNs on record under my name. 

 

1) Excel Parking - 19/12/2016, XLxxxx9844, £100

2) VCS -  21/04/2017, VCSxxx4562, £100 - Matching

3) VCS - 26/04/2017, VCSxxx4950, £100

4) VCS - 27/04/2017, VCSxxx6161, £100 - Matching 

 

I have put matching as these corresponds to BW legal invoices I last recieved.

 

What information do you require?

 

Thanks.

Edited November 4, 2020 by unclebulgaria67
Did not need whole numbers. Edited to redact for confidentiality.

[ats101]

Date of issue: 4th January 2021

 

Name of the Claimant : Vehicle Control Services Limited

 

Claimants Solicitors: Yasmin Mia

 

What is the claim for 

 

1. The Defendant (D) is indebted to the claimant (C) for the Parking Charges (s) issues to the vehicle XXXXX at the Monty Hind Car Park Nottingham NG7 2LX, Leengate Staff and Visitor Car Park Nottingham 

 

2. The PCN details are 21/04/2017 VCSXXXX562, 27/04/2017 VCSXXXX161.

 

3. The PCN (s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms of Cs signs (the contract), thus incurring the PCN(s).

 

4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not.  D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN(s) is outstanding. The contract entitles C to damages. 

 

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 

1. £320 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages.

2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £0.07 until judgement or sooner payment

3. Costs and court fees.  

 

What is the value of the claim? £499.56

 

Amount Claimed £414.56

court fees £35

legal rep fees £50

Total Amount £499.56

 

 

Guys, 

 

The claim from came  through today. 

 

To be absolutely honest, I don't really have a defence as I parked there and had no intention of paying. 

 

Should I pay it off in full or no. 

 

I normally would just pay it off but as emphasised before by dx100uk, not to pay blindly. 

 

What do you think?

Edited January 7, 2021 by ats101

[ats101]

Just had a look Dave, 

 

I received a letter headed with 'Final notice of debt recovery'.

 

Thanks. 

[ats101]

Ok sure,

 

Thanks guys.

[ats101]

Does it matter that I didn't SAR DCBL? 

 

 

[ats101]

Doing some forward thinking,

 

If I submit a defence, it means that I will have to defend myself in court. 

 

The issue I have is that I work in the Isle of man and I'm on the front line in healthcare here. It would be very difficult to come to mainland UK, travel back to IOM and have to isolate for 14 days. 

 

Can I get a waiver?

 

Also there is no address for the solicitor. Who should I address the PPC to?

 

 

 

 

[ats101]

So this was a private car park on/near hospital grounds. I parked there without purchasing a pay and display ticket. Therefore, when I returned to my car after work, there was a PCN on the window. 

 

VCN want to do me because I didn't purchase a ticket and parked in a space governed by them. 

 

[ats101]

Ok sure, I see where you are going with this. 

 

Guys should I tick the box about challenging the jurisdiction? What does this mean? 

[ats101]

sure, I understand.

 

Thanks.

Edited January 8, 2021 by ats101

[ats101]

I cannot remember or tell from the photos. I will have a look on g maps.

 

I cant say for sure, but I think it maybe the same car park twice

 

Ok so next, I will complete the CPR and send it to VCS for the attention of name simon's solicitor.

[ats101]

I understood from earlier these were not letters before claim?

 

Sorry, I am getting somewhat confused here. 

Edited January 9, 2021 by ats101

[ats101]

dx100uk: 

 

I can assure you that I haven't received a pack. 1st set of letters received were two speculative invoices. On the front of these were the offence details and references, on the reverse was payment information. One a4 letter in one envelope and another a4 letter in the other envelope - no pack.

 

This follows the same format for the second set of letters - no pack as such. 

 

 

Dave: This would not be possible at the moment. 

 

 

[ats101]

I don't understand why Simon has used a different for the car parks given the fact that the tickets are recent to one another.