Southern Water/ Shulmans claimform - water and sewerage charges ...

[dx100uk]

no. the paperwork is just for ref if using MCOL

 

can you please complete this:

 

 

[dx100uk]

what is the debt? if its covered by the consumer credit act then get a CCa request and a CPR away TODAY.

if it's not covered by the CCA just send a CPR

see below.

 

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
[if mcol is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time]
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked
 you DO NOT file a defence at this time
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.
..
 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]
..

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/
..
type your name ONLY

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]
 

[dx100uk]

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-8889411648654839:3134625398&q=Shulmans claimform&oq=Shulmans claimform&gs_l=partner-generic.3...36902.40190.2.40859.10.10.0.0.0.0.196.1198.3j7.10.0.gsnos%2Cn%3D13...0.3295j1292363j10...1.34.partner-generic..15.0.0.QPmkTk22YNg

 

numerous of these above get reading all of them.

 

9/10 SW don't have a clue the claim has been raised.

 

pay PARTICULAR ATTENTION to the threads whereby part of the claimed sum is statute barred, they can only claimback 6yrs from the date of the claim.

you are both jointly responsible, you must EACH do everything the other does, AOS,CPR,N180,N157,WS etc etc.

 

I would closely follow the recommended actions in the threads above

1st port of call is a CPR 31:14 each and get on the phone to SW tomorrow {NOT SHULMANS!!) 

also don't forget the water aid scheme too.

 

why has your ex not been ever paying the water bills?

[dx100uk]

well both really.

he is still listed as a tenant too.

[dx100uk]

On 04/02/2020 at 20:44, dx100uk said:

get on the phone to SW tomorrow {NOT SHULMANS!!) 

also don't forget the water aid scheme too

 

no you cant drop yourself in it.

just get to speak to the legal team, as per those other threads

 

main point is some of the debt is statute barred 

 

[dx100uk]

no just shulmans

 

in one of the SW claimform threads here there is I am sure a number to ring.

 

i'll look later. 

[dx100uk]

just send it as is 

shulman never respond anyway.

[dx100uk]

lost me

are you saying that the claimform is not addressed to you where you live now ?

 

 

[dx100uk]

then how did you get the claimform then?
your oh sent it to you.?

 

you MUST update MCOL with your correct address

and always use your correct address on anything sent to any of the players in your claim.

 

the same applies for your OH.

you can send stuff upon her behalf but ofcourse when it comes to signing things like the N180 and your witness statements, she will need to sign hers.

 

[dx100uk]

ask to speak to a supervisor, bypass the call centre answerer.

 

sure the details of the litigation dept person you want are in a past sw Shulmans win here already

[dx100uk]

i've copies the text of your docx file above

dont use docx all your pers details are in properties tab of it!!

 

 

[dx100uk]

luckily no..

as no-one had downloaded the file before I removed it.

you wouldn't want you pers info here and under GDPR etc etc that govn this site..we have to protect you.

[dx100uk]

you use PDF ..

 

as for GDPR that's nothing to do with the claim

 

[dx100uk]

they have 28 days to 'something'

if they dont the case gets autostayed

 

the court should write and inform you about this and ack the defence has been received.

 

now time to read up on the numerous SW/Shulman claimform threads already here so you know what the various processes are going forward if they do!!

 

[dx100uk]

so just a simple change of legal rep form...we've seen this in some of the other Shulman court cases, in essence as concluded before, it's getting pretty apparent that the claimant had no idea Shulmans were raising court claims on their behalf and have gotten pretty annoyed with them and have dumped them.

 

as for the home visit, that will be regard to this water Aid scheme or whatever they call it now, that they've used to help reduce or even kill dead any outstanding balance left after they remove all the bills that are either statute barred or not enforceable against a defendant.

 

the visit can be refused , you'll get a letter first to advise date/time, simply refuse it. I believe they also charge for the visit so make sure that's not added either. but there is no harm in ringing? and sorting it out on the phone as others have. all you'd need is you ex's permission if she doesn't want to go through it.

 

think that's it..

i'm sure andyorch will pop up if not.

 

but all the above we have seen several times here on the Shulman cases already.

the claimant usually now drop's the court claim or let it get autostayed, so that resolves that one too.

 

[dx100uk]

as for the schemes

 

https://www.southernwater.co.uk/newstart

 

https://www.southernwater.co.uk/water-direct

 

https://www.southernwater.co.uk/watersure-tariff

[dx100uk]

orbit are another name for payplan debt advisors.

supposed to be free

but I bet she got charged for the visit on her bill.

 

yes to mediation

1 wit you

3 copies

 

don't forget you each need to do the N180.

and each need to send a copy to the court and the claimant sols or the claimant if they don't appoint a new lot

 

your issues can be drummed out in the mediation session.

 

[dx100uk]

I wouldn't think so, no.

[dx100uk]

mediation is simply a process whereby if both parties agree, the differences they have maybe mutually settled .

it doesn't have any bearing upon what might happen should the claim proceed to court. that is unless the claim is settled at mediation.

but if the claimant wont remove what should not be in the claim sum (the statute bared stuff) and agree a suitable repayment schedule for the rest with BOTH OF YOU, then mediation will fail anyway.

 

so do you agree that if the SB stuff is removed, the rest IS owed?

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

unless you put a timeframe there isn't one for cpr and anyway it's only a request . not compulsory.

but they will have to disclose everything if this ever gets to the allocations stage and witness statement exchange so don't worry.

 

as for mediation, the email/ retraction means nothing and has no bearing upon the case.

mediation is a sep service from the court.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

no should all to your favour now.

 

plenty of other shulman threads here to read use our search top right

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

she should have received ack from the court her defence was received..did she??

if not ring the court and ask..

 

is there no date to exchange witness statements by

or for the claimant to pay the hearing fee?
 

 

 

On 20/02/2020 at 13:06, stephenXL said:

Update:

Court have written 2 days ago to acknowledge receipt of defence (to both of us individually).

 

she did..

 

p'haps it might be better if you scan these N24's please

 

dx

 

 

could it poss be that the pdffile she sent was not complete

that would explain the 'missing' parts..i suspect this might be the case.

check her sent folder, and click on the attached pdf of her defence, check all the text/pages are there.

[dx100uk]

unredacted pictures to screen redacted and converted to pdf..again….

please stop putting up documents that can damage your and our anon..ness and gdpr laws on data protection.

 

 

[dx100uk]

ok all a lot clearer now

and no she should not be conversing on the phone

I suspect that was shulmans trying to get themselves out of the poo with southern water

in most cases here you'll find SW had no idea Shulmans even started a court claim.

 

get her to look at her phone and get the number that called her and post it here please.

 

she should email the court a repeat copy of her initial defence  … it is what we told her to file I assume?

 

dx

 

[dx100uk]

just to recap,,,you were advised to change 2&5 of your defence for you ex..

can we see what was filed please...

as I suspect you didn't actually answer all the claimants POC points.

 

dx