NE parking 2 windscreen PCNs for same offence - outside bay - Hornby Road Blackpool

[ericsbrother]

their terms should say that any breach applies to a 24 hour period so if for example paid to eb there for 3 days then there can only be one parking event so at best only 1 breach.

We will need to see the siganeg and conditions on the parking meter to gve a better response but agree, sit on your hands until you get the NTK through the post and tell us when that arrives

[ericsbrother]

they refer to a 24 hour period but that doesnt mean it is the same as a calendar day so they have "double dipped" with their ticketing.

 

now you wait to see if you get 2 NTK's in the allowed time and then ask the DVLA who has applied for your keeper detaisl and when ad for what reason.

 

the signs says parked fully within the confines of a marked bay.

So is the line a separate bay for very thin cars or is it part of a bay?

You werent over the line so not outside a bay and that gives a default of being within it.

 

I also asked for images of the payment machine and associated blurb but you havent supplied this.

the terms on the machine ARE the contract, not the signs unless the wording is identical and it wot be because there is no tariff on the signage.

 

When we request or suggest something please read it very carefully as precision is vital in fighting these unfair charges.

You will now have to go back and take more pictures.

 

Whilst you are getting some of the parking meter please take a picture of the entrance to the land from the public highway even if there is no signage there.

 

We want to see what a motorist turning in would see.

Google has a plethora of signs visible so confusion may be your friend here as well

[ericsbrother]

we want to compare the blurb on the signs and meter with what their claim you did wrong.

 

Now if there is wording on the payment machine that differs from the signs then it is the payment meter that determines the contract, not the signs

 

so if there is no mention of how long 24 hours is as far as the meter goes then it is what you want it to be when accepting the offer and feeding the machine.

 

They dont get to decide later

[ericsbrother]

can you post up the NTK with your personal details and any reference numbers/batcodes ect redacted?

they have to get the wording right or they fail to create a liability

[ericsbrother]

OK, 

they are saying that they use the IPC appeals procedure but they dont have the ATA logo on thier NTK or on any of the signs I have seen of theirs. They are not currently members of the BPA .

 

The images show the vehicle is on the line not over it so as ther paint is white for the line and the cross hatching is yellow it is obviously part of the marked bay so no breach of that condition. If the intention was that the solid line was out of bounds it would be yellow.

 

No indication on the signage that they belong to any ATA so that leads to the question as to why the DVLA are allowing them to access your keeper details.

 

I would be asking the DVLA who has accessed your details and for what reason.

they will try and avoid the question but persist even if you get a stock respnse for the second bit.

there is a particular address you need to write to, they wont accept an email or phone request.

 

[ericsbrother]

no

You were told what to put,

you request to know who has accessed your data,

when and what was the stated purpose.

that is all.

 

If the intention was to put more then the advice would have included it.

 

No one told you to write  about the BPA membership nor suugest that there may be naughtiness by a company.

 

Also you let them respond and then use the answer to determine what you do after that.

Dont threaten them with a complaint or you wil get a photocopy of a letter that is 10 years old and of no use.

 

breaches of the GDPR are of little consequence if you are being sued as it wont change the contractual relationship between them and you. It is a separate issue, as any post covering the subject make clear.

 

You must do your research on anything you are going to say

[ericsbrother]

You can only defend what they claim and as that is unknown because they havent you cant do much other than get paictures, check for planning consent, find out who owns the land etc, all research rather than defence

[ericsbrother]

Read the last 100 threads and you will know the inside leg measurement of each of the usual suspects when it comes to threatograms.

You HAVE to know what is what becasue we cant be there if it does get to the last hurraha nd you have to speak about why they are in the wrong. Get cracking with your homework and show us the piccies etc