Parking Fine Greenwich London

[Jamberson]

Isn't there a rule about how long the Council has before it issues the first NTO against a PCN? I thought that was 56 days, but I'm not certain of that.

[Jamberson]

When they rejected the informal appeal, they should have given 14 days to pay.

 

So, in post 1: "I had appealed / challenged the fine on 23.1.2017" - The PCN can't have been issued any later than that - so the NTO has to be served no later than 23.7.2017, ie yesterday?

 

He says "I had no response from the Parking Fines office till 14.7.2017" - if that's the date on their letter, then they won't issue an NTO for 14 more days, meaning when it comes along it will be dated 28.7.2017.

 

Therefore, the NTO has not yet been served and when it is, it will be more than six months old, and unenforceable.

[Jamberson]

An NTO - Notice to Owner - is a document which establishes legal liability for a PCN. It's a formal document which is posted out. When you get it, it will ask you to pay the full amount or lodge formal representations.

 

The Council can issue more than one for the same PCN, for instance, if a person receives one and then advises the Council that someone else owns the vehicle, they can issue a second one to the correct person, and so on.

 

However the first one has to be issued within six months of the PCN. You can expect to receive one, and I guess there's no reason to think this is not the first one issued for this PCN?

 

As it's more than six months since the PCN, you would have grounds to have the charge cancelled.

[Jamberson]

Thanks again.

 

Yes I agree that most fines are due to Drivers' ignorance.

But at the same time there have been many evidences where it has been clear that the Boroughs and Councils deliberately make such blind spots to earn money.

 

 

I strongly feel this street, Norman Street /Road in Greenwich, is one of them.

Surely they can put up more prominent signs along the street to make people aware, specially when they see that so many Drivers are fined from that one street.

 

 

It becomes their moral duty to come clean, display better and create awareness when citizens are making same mistakes. Rather than sit quietly and enjoy the fun and the money.

 

 

There are no signs along the whole street / road, neither at the entrance.

It will just cost them a very tiny percentage of the money they collect from fines to put up more sign boards along the road.

 

Please can someone advise me how to submit a 'Right to Information' application to the Borough?

 

I can understand why it will look this way, but I honestly don't think the Council are trying to trick anyone. Remember they aren't a business, and there are no shareholders enjoying the money. It is all in the public purse - if anyone 'enjoys' it, it is the people who live in the area, rather than the people working for the council.

 

Why don't they erect bigger, clearer signs? Probably because they are constrained by 1. regulations as to sign design and sizes, and 2. pressure from complaining residents who don't like unnecessary signs going up in their streets.

 

As for your Right to Information / Freedom of Information request - what for? You will ask them questions, like how many PCNs they issue, how much money they generate etc, and they will tell you. Seems pretty futile to me.