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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Not sure if this the right board for my question so sorry in advance if not. I'm single mum, I rent privately a 2 bed flat with my 7yr old daughter. I've been living in the flat 8yrs this year, I work pay my rent never been in arrears till unfortunately beginning this year 2015 I got put on 0 hrs contract.

 

 

I've stupidly fallen behind with the rent because of Housing Benefit issue which I said I will pay back but has to be in small instalments as only working 16hrs at the mo. I'm owing over 2 months about £1100.00, the Landlord just called yesterday to say he wants his flat back because of divorce and he needs to move back in.. I said fine but can he give me a letter to state this so I can bring to show the council.

 

 

OK, the problem is he keeps coming round unannounced for things like, he wanted something from the loft, and another time he said he come round to check if I still live here, another time he asked me out for a drink...sorry if I am all over the place but it's really stressing me out. I know it's his flat but is he allowed to do this?

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afaik, generally, landlord has to give prior notice of a 'visit' to the rented ppty. if it is becoming personal, then maybe needs to be reported as harassment?

'move back in'? can you elaborate, what is the arrangement re the flat, you and the landlord. what type of tenancy agreement do you have, etc

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Hi BM,

 

I am not an expert but I think the landlord can not just walk in as and when he wants.

 

He needs to give you notice before he comes. Giving you notice does not necessarily give him automatic right to come unless it is a very urgent matter.

 

Otherwise its got to be convenient to you before he can come. In other words, you have to agree with the visit.

 

As for having back his flat, depending on what sort of agreement you have but he will need to give you notice to enable you look for alternative accommodation.

 

From what you said, you have been living there for 8 years and I believe he can not just ask you to leave without giving you notice.

 

I am sure people with more knowledge in the area will come along and advise you.

 

Good luck

 

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It will be in your lease the conditions or circumstances when the landlord should be able to enter your property. It is usually to do with emergency situations only; broken pipes, fire etc.

It is unlikely the landlord will be able to evict you, even through the courts, inn the foreseeable future. Going to court is not a great strategy if you have savings, as you could shell out on lawyers fees at the end. If you do not, or your savings are low, this is the way go. There are various advice agencies. There are 3rd sector helplines like shelter but my experience of them was not good. There should also be advice centers connected to your local council and courts. In Edinburgh we have EHAP for court action, and the Advice-Shop is the advice section of the council.

Obviously each case is situation dependant, but i would approach this confidently. You have a child so it will make it even more difficult. Your a long term tenant and the only reason you have fallen behind is due to work situation and councils incompetence. For example, my current housemate was paid 5000 pounds by his previous landlord to leave a property. His wife had just become pregnant at the time.

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Unfortunatly the advice given by Chris may not be accurate when it comes to eviction.

 

What kind of tennancy do you have

 

Are you in England and Wales.

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As far as I can tell,

 

A Mandatory reason for eviction is 2 periods of rent arrears if the LL took it to court.

 

The LL could also serve the appropriate notice as stated in your T agreement and then seek possession with the court.

 

A Court can ONLY delay eviction on mandatory grounds for a maximum of 6 weeks (which are dependent on any issues of vulnerability)

 

As for the unscheduled visits, you should be making notes of these and maybe send a letter requesting he stops. Keep a copy of the letter with proof of postage and proof of delivery. If eviction were to be sought under discretionry terms, you could counter with harassment if you have the proof.

 

*IF* you are an assured short hold tenancy that has rolled into a periodic one, then sadly the LL can issue a section 21 with the correct 2 months notice which will form a mandatory grounds for eviction.

 

To help with appropriate detail, we need to know your tenancy type.

 

Until he provides a written notice to quit, there are no worries regarding eviction. When/IF that arrives, please post up what the notice says (Minus personal details) so people can check to see if the grounds and notice are valid.

 

Also bear in mind, my advice applies to England and Wales, not Scotland so let us know f you live "Up North" :)

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Hello Again

 

 

Excuse me for the late reply, I am not ignoring people I'm using computer at work. Thank you for your help, I forgot to give more specific info regarding my tenancy. I have looked at my tenancy document and yes I am an Assured Short hold Tenant, the landlord never has renewed it though since 2007. The relationship between the landlord and I is purely business we are not related or anything like that.

 

 

He has given me written notice that he would like to move back into his flat because he divorced and needs somewhere to live. He said in the letter that he is giving 2 months notice but flexible to wait longer for me to find somewhere else. He said he's not evicting me because of the arrears and I've been a good tenant given no trouble. I even decorated a bit with painting and putting up blinds, wallpapered my bedroom just small stuff like that.

 

 

I'm just concerned about he keep coming round, I don't like it because sometimes i'm in my dressing gown when he shows up and I feel obligated to allow it because I owe him money. I don't want any confrontation or any issue about going to court to get eviction papers, I think then he might turn nasty, change the locks on me or something. I am worried about me and my daughter if the council can't help, I don't have that sort of money to fork out for rent deposit i'm in London.

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prior notice of a visit is still required. if its personal, then poss harassment.

never renewed? then maybe continue eg

 

'After this period comes to an end, if you and your landlord want to extend the tenancy you may:

some info with linked info https://www.gov.uk/private-renting-tenancy-agreements/overview

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OK so short hold tenancy has become a periodic short hold tenancy.

 

It is vital you scan up a copy of the letter he has given (remove personal details)

If his notice does not meet the standard of a section 21 it will not be enforceable in court.

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I have looked at my tenancy document and yes I am an Assured Short hold Tenant, the landlord never has renewed it though since 2007.

 

 

He has given me written notice that he would like to move back into his flat because he divorced and needs somewhere to live. He said in the letter that he is giving 2 months notice but flexible to wait longer for me to find somewhere else. He said he's not evicting me because of the arrears and I've been a good tenant given no trouble. I even decorated a bit with painting and putting up blinds, wallpapered my bedroom just small stuff like that.

 

1, and this is very important when did the last fixed term end in 2007 before or after April 4th 2007? Also did you pay a deposit and was/is it protected?

 

Potential Superstrike if after 4th April!

 

2, with it being a periodic tenancy the landlord could use either a Section 21 notice or Section 8 notice; one of the section 8 grounds is the owner wanting to move back into the property to live.

 

It'll be 2 months from service of the notice (if it's correct) before he can file for possession hearing in Court. On top of that there's the wait for a Court date and then the judge 'may' award you upto 40 days stay on the eviction date from that point.

 

 

To be honest if he gets his notices right the best you can hope for is to delay things by forcing them to go to Court etc as eventually he will be successful. Your Council (although they shouldn't) will probably tell you to wait right until the point you are physically evicted. This will cost you (unless it's changed again) £250 Court fee and maybe solicitors cost on top as well.

 

You need to get pro-active an evaluate your options. Also you need to get those notices checked out for correctness urgently as if they're valid you have to act.

 

1, contact the Charity Shelter - it's free phone and see what they say. They're very good and will help advise you on time scales and what you can do/get via your Local Council.

2, visit the Council - Think it's Tenancy Relations - and explain your landlord wants to evict you and get on the Housing waiting list etc

3, see or keep the number of a Local Law Centre or CAB handy.

 

Given the state of Council temporary accommodation and waiting lists if you can look and find somewhere new then it really is in your best interest to do so. You've got quite a bit of time so.....

 

 

As for the harassment it sounds like he's being passive aggressive. Record it and get advice on how to nip it in the bud quickly as it will escalate. My landlord tried this knocking on my door for a chat business - I let him in once which was a big mistake then told him NO! Then just didn't open the door or even acknowledge he was there after that. Change the locks if feel unsafe - just remember to put the original locks back when you leave.

 

 

You may also want to get this thread moved into the more busy Residential and Commercial lettings/Freehold issues section of the board by reporting it to a Mod via the little triangle icon to get my advice checked out and more answers/suggestions

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