GP problem

[kronas]

here is a brief outline of my problems, it started last year, i was on incapacity benefit, i got hauled up for a medical, i failed it, went to appeal, it was rejected, so i was left with no income, nothing, so i went on to JSA, now my health has deteriorated, i am currently seeing two specialists and a dietician, with a range of problems, depression, stomach related, loss of wieght etc, the advisors to their credit have attempted to keep my benefit going, i have come off new deal as they deemed it was too harsh for me considering the status of my health and they acknowledged i am indeed ill.

 

the problem is my GP refuses to issue me a medical certificate, his reason is i failed the medical in july 05 and he cannot give me one because of that, even if my condition has worsened, he says the blame lies with the DHSS.

 

CAB, cant help, ICAS say they cannot intervine, same goes for PALS.

 

so im stuck on what to do...

 

anyone got any advice ?

 

[bigboyprice69]

Can you request a new medical, as your condition has altered drastically surely you're entitled to another medical.

[kronas]

Can you request a new medical, as your condition has altered drastically surely you're entitled to another medical.

 

nope, i need a damn certificate which the GP has refused to give one.

[DollyDayDream]

Can you change your GP?

[kronas]

Can you change your GP?

 

nope, i have been told by another surgery i cant, as i already have a doctor in the same area, i would have to go out of the area, which i cannot, due to my health, plus it wouldnt gaurantee me what i need, i did talk to CLS and they refered me to the DWP website which states the clinician treating you at a hospital can provide sicknotes for social security or SSP, now he says its up to the GP, so im getting the old ping pong affect, with nowhere to go, legally i cant do anything...

[poppynurse]

You are entitled to change GP if the relationship has broken down, I would write to the senior partner at the GPs explaining your problem and your issue with your GP and see what response you get. If no joy speak to your PCT about changing.

[dragonlord002]

what you gp is saying he cant give you a sick note for same thing

 

big hint they can write one if you get a new condition

so time to get soime back pain

thats a new condition pluss you can add old stuff as well

 

hint nuber 2 i can see all this ilness has made you depresed

[kronas]

what you gp is saying he cant give you a sick note for same thing

 

big hint they can write one if you get a new condition

so time to get soime back pain

thats a new condition pluss you can add old stuff as well

 

hint nuber 2 i can see all this ilness has made you depresed

 

i have stomach problems (long history stretching back to childohood , and minor back problems.....

 

i dont know what to do....

[poppynurse]

Is your GP saying that you are fit to work?

[breadline]

I have come off new deal as they deemed it was too harsh for me considering the status of my health and they acknowledged i am indeed ill.

 

the problem is my GP refuses to issue me a medical certificate,

 

If you now are demeed ill and are off JSA, why would you need a medical certifcate.? Is it to go back on Incapacity?

What benefit are you on now?

So the DSS have admitted you are ill, but not ill enough for Incapacity?

 

Have i got this right?

[kronas]

Is your GP saying that you are fit to work?

 

nope, in his letter he says he cant becuase of the DWP failing me on the medical, and that i didnt turn up at the appeal, i rang them (appeals office) i was too unwell to go, they didnt get the message!

 

thats it!

[kronas]

If you now are demeed ill and are off JSA, why would you need a medical certifcate.? Is it to go back on Incapacity?

What benefit are you on now?

So the DSS have admitted you are ill, but not ill enough for Incapacity?

 

Have i got this right?

 

i AM on JSA, im seeing a DEA, they know im unwell and took me off new deal, i want to claim incapacity and cant cant for the reasons in my posts above....

[M_A_A_B]

I dont think the DWP can affect anything to do with your GP....sounds like he's making excuses....definetly change your GP....you should be entitled to do this as someone above said, write to the senior partner.

 

Can you not submit a new claim for incapacity benefit? Surely they would then have to look at the claim afresh and take in to account how your condition has become worse...

 

have you applied for DLA??

 

Also...just wondering why you're on JSA and not income support??? Surely if you're ill then you cant seek employment....

[breadline]

when you come off incapacity you go into JSA

[breadline]

nope, in his letter he says he cant because of the DWP failing me on the medical, and that i didn't turn up at the appeal, i rang them (appeals office) i was too unwell to go, they didn't get the message!

 

thats it!

 

what your doctor isn't doing is standing up for you like he should, your doctor should be trying to fight your corner if you are ill.

 

the problem here is the doctors are run by the government they are under strict guidelines with everything , even if they know they are not right they have to follow the lines given.

 

he wont take on the DWP.

 

This is my thoughts.

[kronas]

what your doctor isn't doing is standing up for you like he should, your doctor should be trying to fight your corner if you are ill.

 

the problem here is the doctors are run by the government they are under strict guidelines with everything , even if they know they are not right they have to follow the lines given.

 

he wont take on the DWP.

 

This is my thoughts.

 

yep, its his surgery too, so he owns me

[kronas]

I dont think the DWP can affect anything to do with your GP....sounds like he's making excuses....definetly change your GP....you should be entitled to do this as someone above said, write to the senior partner.

 

as stated its his surgery, the other GP was about to write me a sicknote then read something on my notes and said 'DHSS stopped your sicknote i cant give you one'

 

Can you not submit a new claim for incapacity benefit? Surely they would then have to look at the claim afresh and take in to account how your condition has become worse...

 

 

i can, but STILL NEED a sicknote....therein lies the problem.

 

have you applied for DLA??

 

nope, im not aware of the requirements.

 

Also...just wondering why you're on JSA and not income support??? Surely if you're ill then you cant seek employment....

 

what user 'breadline' said its true.

[M_A_A_B]

Ok....I really think you need to have a good chat with your GP.....if your GP doesnt think you are able to work then I dont see how the DHSS can stop your sick notes...

 

Maybe you should find out about applying for DLA because if you get that then they might take your claim for incapacity benfit a bit more seriously.

 

If you made a frsh claim for incapacity benefit then surely your doctor could write you a fresh sick note that would be valid....I dont see how that could be blocked if it is for a brand new claim.....

 

Maybe you should go and see someone like CAB to get advice

[breadline]

Doctors are told what is acceptable to be carried out, form sick notes to illnesses, even if there is much proof and the doctor knows his thoughts are correct, he has no choice but to stay with in the guidelines of the country he works in.

 

The fact the GP owns the surgery means he is not about to risk having his income cut off by challenging his restrictions.

 

If doctors can't diagnose illnesses, for this reason they certainly won't be concerned about a sick note.

 

 

BL:)

[poppynurse]

What were you signed off sick with before?

I would be asking for a meeting with the practive manager and your GP and get them to confirm in writing if you are medically fit to work or not. If they think you are then you are entitled to ask for a second opinion, either from another GP or from a consultant at the hospital. It strikes me that your GP believes you are fit to work.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

Hi, easiset way is you apply for another benefit liks a disibility alloance or something. see what they say. They may even send you for another medical etc and then see hw it goes. How long have you been on jsa for ? As if you have had a break of a certain amount then your previous medical etc does not count. your claim starts of as a new claim. I think its 6 months. They call this the link up period. if this is not there then your gp should not have a problem.

[kronas]

Hi, easiset way is you apply for another benefit liks a disibility alloance or something. see what they say. They may even send you for another medical etc and then see hw it goes. How long have you been on jsa for ? As if you have had a break of a certain amount then your previous medical etc does not count. your claim starts of as a new claim. I think its 6 months. They call this the link up period. if this is not there then your gp should not have a problem.

 

there was a five to six month break before i started my JSA claim, it will be a year next month or month after since i started claiming JSA....

 

What were you signed off sick with before?

I would be asking for a meeting with the practive manager and your GP and get them to confirm in writing if you are medically fit to work or not. If they think you are then you are entitled to ask for a second opinion, either from another GP or from a consultant at the hospital. It strikes me that your GP believes you are fit to work.

 

i was signed off for depression, much like now, but its got worse, coupled with stomach and a bit of back trouble, the latter is minor.

 

Ok....I really think you need to have a good chat with your GP.....if your GP doesnt think you are able to work then I dont see how the DHSS can stop your sick notes...

 

Maybe you should find out about applying for DLA because if you get that then they might take your claim for incapacity benfit a bit more seriously.

 

If you made a frsh claim for incapacity benefit then surely your doctor could write you a fresh sick note that would be valid....I dont see how that could be blocked if it is for a brand new claim.....

 

Maybe you should go and see someone like CAB to get advice

 

he wont say i am or am not capable, he just points to the decision!

 

i dont know about DLA, i got a flat a few months ago, however in the past month i have not really been there, due to worsening health.

[M_A_A_B]

 

he wont say i am or am not capable, he just points to the decision!

 

i dont know about DLA, i got a flat a few months ago, however in the past month i have not really been there, due to worsening health.

 

You should get in touch with the CAB...they should be able to inform you of what benefits you are entitled to, help you claim those benefits and may even be able to help with the problems with your GP and getting incapacity benefit....

 

they will also be able to tell you about DLA

[kronas]

You should get in touch with the CAB...they should be able to inform you of what benefits you are entitled to, help you claim those benefits and may even be able to help with the problems with your GP and getting incapacity benefit....

 

they will also be able to tell you about DLA

 

im going to chase up the DLA if i cant get the GP or consultant to budge!

[M_A_A_B]

bear in mind that DLA can take a long time....you'd be best off getting CAB to help fill in the forms....then it takes weeks to come through and you might not get it first time....it took me 10 months to get mine after a doctors visit and an appeal tribunal but I got there in the end...and you get back pay from the start of your claim....might not be that useful to you in the short term though.