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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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I've been given an eviction date of 18th August 2012 and this is my 3rd

 

THe second was suspended after I secured a new job but a couple of months in, I fell ill with an ear infection that affected my balance.

 

Because of this I had to bee off work for a month and had to take unpaid leave due to being on probation. I've been advised my HBOS that a minimum of £1829.91 should be paid in order to cancel the eviction and that this isn't negotiable as it's the 3rd.

 

I've made 2 of my contractual payments since the eviction was ordered and although I've explained the situation - it seems I'll need to go to court. Could you please help me with this as I need to file an N244

 

Also - my partner recently qualified as a physio and will now be able to help with the household bills where I've been paying them myself. Will this be taken into account?

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I've been given an eviction date of 18th August 2012 and this is my 3rd

 

THe second was suspended after I secured a new job but a couple of months in, I fell ill with an ear infection that affected my balance.

 

Because of this I had to bee off work for a month and had to take unpaid leave due to being on probation. I've been advised my HBOS that a minimum of £1829.91 should be paid in order to cancel the eviction and that this isn't negotiable as it's the 3rd.

 

I've made 2 of my contractual payments since the eviction was ordered and although I've explained the situation - it seems I'll need to go to court. Could you please help me with this as I need to file an N244

 

Also - my partner recently qualified as a physio and will now be able to help with the household bills where I've been paying them myself. Will this be taken into account?

 

Do you have proof of your being off work ill (copy of medical certificates and payslip showing loss of earnings?) - also can you print off proof of the two payments you have made since the eviction warrant was issued?

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I can ask my doctor for a certificate but haven't because of the £15 that I'd need to pay for it

 

Also - I just called my local county court and was told that there is a £80 fee to file the claim

 

I have £84 left in my account and that's for food shopping so I don't know what to do.....the wording from the HBOS solicitors stated that a minimum of £1829.91 had to be paid prior to the eviction date...I didn't realise they meant in addition to the normal payments. Surely if I had such a lump sum, I wouldn't have got behind in the first place.

 

I informed them about being off sick but they say it's neither here nor there. Would it help to provide them with a medical certificate.....and hold off on the hearing for a few days - I just can't afford to do both unless the doctors surgery agrees to let me pay them at a later date. Even then, I'm penniless until my next pay date which is after the eviction

 

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If you have an eviction notice then the fee for an N244 is £40 not £80

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That's something - but it's still more than I can reasonably afford but I may try and apply for a fee remission or deferral. I've been told that the £1829.91 can consist of my mortgage payments and I thought I had a leg to stand on since I've made £1300 in payments since the eviction was ordered but I had the following response from Walker Morris

 

"On the 24 July we told you that you needed to pay £1829.91, £650 was paid on 25 July therefore you still need to pay £1179.91. If you are unable to pay this amount in cleared funds before the date of the eviction then we must suggest that you seek independent legal advice."

 

They are discounting the payment I made on the 25th June even though the eviction had been ordered at that point...can they do that? What I've tried to explain is that I plan to make a further payment on the 25th August which would mean I'd paid £1950 since the eviction was ordered. But with the eviction dated the 21st I don't know that that will be accepted. I am just getting all my information together to request a court hearing but I'd just like to know where I stand with respect to the payment they are asking for before the 21st

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Unfortunately they can ask for any outstanding payments to be made before they will cancel eviction. The only way to get a payment arrangement acepted is to apply for a hearing in front of a judge and given that your arrears are low and you are able to show you can make monthly payments going forward plus something towards the arrears you should be OK. I can help you with the N244 application - particularly the statement to go with it, but obviously you will have to pay a fee to the court to do this.

 

As you still have a bit of time before the eviction date, you could always write to the lender explaining the circumstances that caused the arrears plus the payments you have already made and ask them to cancel the eviction. If you have to go to a court hearing we can use a copy of the letter with your statement to show the judge you tried to negotiate with them.

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Hi Ell-len

 

Apologies for the delay - I've had a few issues in negotiating with HBOS as their responses have been delayed. I need to get to the court to apply for the hearing this afternoon but I also need to apply for a fee remission or deferral based on my pay date.

 

Could you help with the N244 Q10 statement as I'm unsure how to word it

 

Currently I pay £650 which is £609 towards the repayment mortgage + £41 towars arrears...I've asked if they would accept an increase to £700 per month but they still won't budge without a lump sum before the 21st - even thought my pay date is the 25th.

 

I can pay £900 of this lump sum on the 25th but - still not acceptable to them. I am going to ask about an advance from work for this amount but I haven't heard if that will be sufficiient to cancel the eviction. Either way - I need to get a hearing scheduled today somehow. I understand that emergency fee remissions can sometimes be requested in the case of evictions.

 

I'm a total mess and I'm trying to get organised but it's a struggle and with only a week to go until the eviction - I'm panicking

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What date is the eviction? in your first post you said it was the 18th August, but that is a Saturday?

 

I'm at work today so have very little time to spare. Have a look at this guide - it will show you how to fill in an N244 and also how to set out a statement for Q.10 - if you draft it out I can try and have a look at it before you take it to court. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?325527-CAG-guide-Are-you-facing-eviction-or-repossession

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I had a solicitors letter quoting the 18th and a court document citing the 21st which is the actual eviction date.

 

I'll send over my draft for the n244 - if you do get time it would be great if you could look it over.

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Hi - ok I called the HRAC in a brief fit of panic and have been advised to pay the outstanding balance....I offered HBOS £1000 of the £1179 but they have rejected the offer. I'm concerned about going to court with this being the 3rd time that eviction has been ordered on my property so would like to avoid it - is there anything I can say that might convince them to accept my offer

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Are you saying that the arrears total is £1179 and they have refused payment of £1,000 ???? that only leaves a balance of £179 - if that's the case the judge is not going to be happy with them!

 

Have you done the statemetn for the N244 yet?

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Shaina it is very difficult to get through to lenders and their solicitors. They are like machines, just grinding on saying 'full arrears or eviction'. I know you hate the thought of going to court but you will find a judge much more helpful than the brain dead individuals that seem to inhabit the legal teams of mortgage companies and their 'gun for hire' solicitors.

 

Once you get into the eviction cycle it seems to me to be easier to go to court where you get a sensible hearing rather than selling your soul to pay arrears that you simply can't afford because some clerk at a lender doesn't have the brains or authority to accept a reasonable offer.

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Hi Ell-en

 

I actually took the paperwork to the court yesterday and requested emergency fee remission until Friday based on the upcoming eviction - which was rejected and so I wasn't able to file the N244. The total arrears are just over £11000 (charges + arrears) and the minimum payment they will accept is £1179. I understand what everyone is saying about it being easier to deal with lenders via the court but I don't want to burn bridges in case this comes up again (which it shouldn't). Also, HBOS aren't being completely unreasonable and they have agreed to discuss a temporary move to interest only for a few months once the eviction has been cancelled. I'm inclined to pay it at the moment - I can't afford to take any more time off work to try and handle this.....what's your opinion ?

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If you are able to make the payment they want to stop the eviction then you need to do it and quicky! otherwise you will find bailiffs turn up on Tuesday to evict you.

 

The only other alternative is to pay the £40 fee to lodge the N244 and get an emergency hearing to stop the eviction based on your offer of monthly payment towards the arrears - but you would most definately need to attend the hearing which would require taking time off work.

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Ok update.....now I'm feeling stupid

 

I made the payment today and Walker Morris confirmed that Halifax have requested that the eviction be cancelled

.....but they are still demanding a mortgage payment on/before 28th August or legal action will begin again. I don't have the money for that......I'll have to try and discuss this with Halifax but I thought that the payment I made today would be considered a payment for August

 

I need to go and cry

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You need to ring the court first thing on Monday and check that the eviction has really been cancelled. Then you need to try to come to some arrangement regarding paying the August installment.

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