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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
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Hi everyone,

I didnt have enough money on my debit card at the date I promised to repay wonga and now my loan is overdue. I have e-mailed them, but did not receive any response yet. I want to look up what penalties are described in the agreement, but it seems Ive accidentally deleted it :sad:, so if any of you have a saved copy of it, please post it here.

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Hi there,

I am in the same ship as you I currently owe them 9**pound.8** was the loan and 1** interest.My payment was due today but i didnt had the funds available.I emailed them on [email protected] and [email protected] explaining my current situation.I got same day email back stating that they accept my repayment plan.I asked if i could pay in 10 months and the allowed me to pay in 12 months.They helped me out friendly and without being a pain.I was quite surprised actually.They advised me to reply soon cause of the interest charges.All they cahrged is an extra 20 pound for not paying the loan off.

As long you stay polite and explain ur situation it wont be difficult.

 

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Just wondering if you could help me. I just registered to Wonga.com as I'm really short on cash....submitted my address etc but when it came to entering my bank details I daren't do it because I don't think I'm going to be able to afford to pay it back. I don't want any of my family members to know that I had considered using Wonga.com because they don't realise how short of cash I am. Are Wonga.com likely to send me anything through the post now I registered and they have my address? even though I didn't carry on to enter my bank details? If so what colour will the letter be so I know to quickly dispose of the letter when it comes through the post! Any help from someone who has used the service before would be great, thanks!

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Just wondering if you could help me. I just registered to Wonga.com as I'm really short on cash....submitted my address etc but when it came to entering my bank details I daren't do it because I don't think I'm going to be able to afford to pay it back. I don't want any of my family members to know that I had considered using Wonga.com because they don't realise how short of cash I am. Are Wonga.com likely to send me anything through the post now I registered and they have my address? even though I didn't carry on to enter my bank details? If so what colour will the letter be so I know to quickly dispose of the letter when it comes through the post! Any help from someone who has used the service before would be great, thanks![/quote

 

They dont send anything through post unless you default on their loan but as soon u know u wont be able to repay you should get with them in touch n setup a plan wich will be via email.the chance that they send u a letter through post after that is minimum.

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Just wondering if you could help me. I just registered to Wonga.com as I'm really short on cash....submitted my address etc but when it came to entering my bank details I daren't do it because I don't think I'm going to be able to afford to pay it back. I don't want any of my family members to know that I had considered using Wonga.com because they don't realise how short of cash I am. Are Wonga.com likely to send me anything through the post now I registered and they have my address? even though I didn't carry on to enter my bank details? If so what colour will the letter be so I know to quickly dispose of the letter when it comes through the post! Any help from someone who has used the service before would be great, thanks!

 

Sorry.. but if you know you can't pay them back why would you get a loan in the first place? Therefore effectively knowing you'll end up in debt? Can't you ask your family for a loan?

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it'a a shame grapegirl never came back - I must say her thread was a peculiar one, in that she knew she would default but was more worried that other family members would know she went to Wonga. In fact I made a guess from a few things that she was quiet young and to me that is a shame as it shows how society fails to educate the young properly on how to hand our finances. EDIT me being one of those who were never "shown the way" lol

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Funny I read it that Grapegirl actually wised up and ran (didn't take the loan) but was concerned about family seeing mail totally understandable (debt can split husband and wife and whole families up and lots of other awful things you know)perhaps this is another of my posts that will disappear!!

Happy to share my experience but for your own protection, please check and double check what myself and other Caggers inform

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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.”

 

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Funny I read it that Grapegirl actually wised up and ran (didn't take the loan) but was concerned about family seeing mail totally understandable (debt can split husband and wife and whole families up and lots of other awful things you know)perhaps this is another of my posts that will disappear!!

 

I was never questioning why she never came back, I said it was a shame she never came back. We all wonder how these things turned out, it's sometimes nice to know from the person themselves the outcome, but of course this cannot always happen. Neither did I underestimate the issues that spring up between us and our loved ones when we have these problems. What I meant, and I'm guessing you misinterpreted what that was, is that some of us become carried away with the worry of what others may think about our debts rather than the main issue, which is of course the debts themselves. We've all done it, Even now I hide my debt issues from some of my loved ones, but it's not exactly perfect is it?

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I'm sorry I'd actually posted a previous response on this thread to direct Grapegirl to the Mail Preference Service straight after the inital post which now seems to have vanished lol !, to which there was a reply of ty.

 

I guess I'm lucky in that I don't live with family members so they don't see my post so at the moment so it is my decision not to tell and they need not know cause I feel I'm getting on top of it all, having witnessed first hand when younger, what I wrote in my last post yesterday which is why people are so distressed/worried when it comes to receiving mail if they cannot tell for fear of all sorts happening.

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Happy to share my experience but for your own protection, please check and double check what myself and other Caggers inform

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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.”

 

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I do know what you are saying about becoming transfixed/thinking only about our debt problems

the more I've dealt with this, the worse it's got in fact it's feels like it's been a lot like opening pandora's box

 

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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.”

 

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