Will a chat with police come up in CRB check

[mehmeh]

I am currently 21 and a few years I a 'indecent' remark on Runescape (An online game I was playing) regarding liking 15 years old girls, which I have regretted since. I was 18 back then (a 15 years old would only be 3 years younger than me, even if I was to date one, was there anything too wrong with it?) and I was on holiday from university and was playing the game because I was bored. A couple of months later, a policeman turned up at my house showed me this record and said messages like these can be interpreted and charges could be pressed on this ground. I told him that I was sorry and has not played the game since. Nothing was done and I was definitely not cautioned.

 

I am now looking to do some freelance teaching, in particularly A-level students. I have been told about potential opportunities in working in schools, so I am currently applying through an enhanced CRB check through an organisation. The only thing that could potentially come up is the story above. Is this kind of things held on record and used against me?

[padja]

it shouldn't but could be if the policeman made an incident number as you be around children of the age you mentioned. It can be put as precaution however you should be given an opportunity to explain. However I suspect it wont appear but if it does be prepared to answer any questions and be honest about it. I wouldn't worry too much though

[mehmeh]

thanks a lot. I hope that is the case... I thought about volunteering in teaching a few years ago and got worried cos of this so I didn't in the end, because if it came up, I think I'd have felt really embarassed...

[honeybee13]

Hello there.

 

We've had quite a few queries along these lines. Some people have needed to explain to a prospective employer. But I remember people who did something when they were young and slightly foolish who have found that they received an understanding reaction because of being young at the time.

 

My best, HB

[green_and_mean]

I had a malicious complaint against me when I worked with children which was investigated by the Police child protection unit and it has never shown up on my enhanced checks so I wouldn't worry.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Highly unlikely to show, I see many enhanced CRB checks

as chair of a charity never ever seen a ''chat with the police''

show up.

[mehmeh]

even for enhanced CRB check? I really hope this is the case. Thank you very much.

Edited December 5, 2011 by mehmeh

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

All the CRB checks I have seen are enhanced as it is a childrens

charity, convictions and warnings will show.

[mehmeh]

All the CRB checks I have seen are enhanced as it is a childrens

charity, convictions and warnings will show.

 

define a warning? It wasn't a police caution.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Then it will not count, not show.

Only formal recorded action by the police

will have any impact.

 

Brig.++

[misselle]

Its all going to depend on if the poilice felt strong enough to make an official record about the chat and the nature of it. Police sometimes hold intel on things like that and it would be up to the individual police force's to decide if they wanted to disclose it or not on your Enhanced CRB and each police force is different.To be honest and I dont want to put you off in any way but it is pot luck if they hold intel and if they are going to disclose it. I have seen intel come back for far less and on the other scale I have expected intel or more information to be disclosed about incidents and it hasnt.Only way to see would be to get the enhanced CRB done and if it does show explain to your employerthe circumstances surrounding it and it would them be up for them to decide.misselle

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

The OP would have been told(a legal requiement) at the

time of the ''chat'' if any such action had been taken.

It is not done by the ''back door'' if this had been an interview

under caution or a caution issued it would be a different matter.

[misselle]

Unfortunately there is no such legal requirement if the police want to note down Intel and the OP certainly wouldn’t have been told if they wished to take it down as Intel as this would defeat the purpose of Intel. The police can hold Intel on anyone about anything without that person ever knowing, I’ve seen in many times and I’ve seen it many times appearing on enhanced CRB and Disclosure checks.Police sometimes simply don’t have enough evidence to prosecute someone however their concerns are serious enough that they want to log it as Intel on their police system. It’s the same way that such things can be disclosed on a public interest order.Example being Ian Huntley, he had a number of Intel noted on him but not prosecutions which the police forces didn’t share with each other. Hence when enhanced CRB checks were introduced so that a person like him who police had concerns about but had no evidence could be prevented from working with children by the Intel being displayed on a check.I worked at disclosure Scotland for a number of years processing their disclosures and working together with CRB therefore I know a lot about this subject. Processing the Intel disclosed from police and dealing with the fallout from people when they discovered Intel had been disclosed by the police.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Hi Not being pedantic here, this has nothing to do

with ''intell'' as you put it is regarding a formal report

to the CRB not the keeping of intelligence, having many

CRB checks I know quite a bit myself.

[misselle]

Brig,A formal report to CRB would be because of Intel held on the OP or anyone else who applied for CRBs at enhanced level.sometimes on PNC or CHS or even through the various lists which are checked someone gets flagged, that person doesn’t need to have any criminal convictions on the record or file which has been created for them but what some do have is information that the police hold on them an example beingCheck is done on Mr A, PNC shows a record for Mr A that has no convictions or cautions or warnings on it however it does have an Intel marker on itCRB would contact the police force who own the record and tell them the position Mr A is applying for, Police force then decide that the Intel they have on Mr. A is such that they wish to disclose it on the CRBMr A gets his CRB back and it shows that the police spoke to Mr A about a flippant comment which was made to his neighbour regarding the neighbours 14 year old daughter, however charges were never made against Mr A

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

It may be different in SCOTLAND, The Criminal Records Board Keeps

CRIMINAL RECORDS NOT SUSPICION,

CONVICTIONS, CAUTIONS YES.

[misselle]

Other relevant information is where it would appear and its not just Scotland I’m talking about CRB are governed by the same police act as disclosure Scotland, so yes suspicions can be disclosed if the police deem it necessary Part 5 of the Police Act 1997 which sets out the criteria for CRB checks states: 115 Enhanced criminal record certificates F298) The Secretary of State shall also request the chief officer of every relevant police force to provide any information which, in the chief officer’s opinion— (a)might be relevant for the purpose described in the statement under subsection (2), (b)ought not to be included in the certificate, in the interests of the prevention or detection of crime, and ©can, without harming those interests, be disclosed to the registered person.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

In simple terms the information relating such so called'' inteligence''

information is limited in bot content and accessibility.

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[AuntRene]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I'm a bit confused a bit worried what what info will show on a enhanced CRB check.

I work for a retail store of which I had a manger who stole £6000 last year.

 

 

A bit of background.

 

 

He stole the money bit by bit taking the daily takings here and there.

Unknown to myself he was taking the money the night before the cash collections by the security company and sealing the large banking bags. On a number of occasions I was the only manager in on that day so I would be the only to hand over the banking bag and sign the receipt to state that the monies had been collected from the store.

 

To cut a long story short, I was sacked ( got my job back when I applied to ET - company backed down) , arrested and was on police bail for nearly 4 months. The manager who took the money finally confessed and was convicted and given a suspended sentence for the theft, I was 'released' if you can call it that.

 

Now will this show up on a enhanced CRB check?

My employer are saying it won't but I'm not sure.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Unlkely I think,as you were not convicted,

You can find out by making a sublect access

request to your local police or the CRB itself.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

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Please refrain from using this forum

[AuntRene]

Unlkely I think,as you were not convicted,

You can find out by making a sublect access

request to your local police or the CRB itself.

 

Thanks for the quick reply.

I will get onto that to make sure.