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    • Received a final demand today Final demand.pdf
    • Here is my final draft: I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in the claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act.   1.        The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date.   2.        I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment.   As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party.   3.        The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’.  The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents.   4.        Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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    • Hi folks, I've just found previous documentation. I thought it had gone missing. I'd forgotten that I did appeal it through POPLA but I can't find the thread on here that, I assume, I posted for help. Appeal letter is dated 27/10/2020 with a rejection. I genuinely had forgotten about this so apologies for misleading you. A lot has happened in the years since the ticket was issued. We closed down a couple of businesses and moved to the opposite end of the country to retire. The documents I have are scanned copies. I no longer have the originals. The NTK is also in there. If there's anything you'd like to see, please let me know and I'll post them, although it probably won't be until tomorrow now, but I'll be looking in on this page tonight. Thank you for the responses so far
    • Hello! After emailing them I received this reply:   I have drafted the following, please would you be able to comment as to if you think it is correct/sufficient? "Thank you for your email.   Thanks you for confirming that the vehicle does not have these features as stated in the advertisement.    I am sure you are aware that the Consumer Rights Act 2015 provides the short term right to reject within 30 days. Statutory rights cannot be taken away from a consumer, and any attempt to do so is illegal.   Please can you advise how best to return the vehicle?" Thanks in advance!
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Hi there, I am new to this forum so forgive me if I've gone onto the wrong thread. A company called MMS uk have called my work over the weekend (which wasn't open, we're a school) and left messages to the effect of threatening to come and visit me at work if I do not contact them. They then called my work today (Monday) and spoke to the receptionist stating my name, why they were calling ( I owe them money) and that they want an address for me. Luckily the receptionist used her discretion and politely told them that she cannot give out that info and that they should not be telling her the nature of their call. She then inform me of the calls. This has upset me greatly as the headteacher does not allow personal calls on the work phone. Also the fact that information was given that should not have been. What can I do?

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As above, make that complaint tomorrow.

 

Then lodge a formal complaint with the OFT&TS via http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/UsefulContactsByCategory/Governmentcitizensandrightscontacts/DG_195948

 

Let these clowns know that their actions are not going to be tolerated and put them to strict proof that if they call you again by telephone, you WILL go to the Police and report them for the criminal offence of harassment.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?493-Harassment-by-telephone-response-letter

 

What are they after? Credit Card, Loan, Overdraft, pocket money?

 

Is it these guys??

http://www.mms-uk.com/

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Ah yes, Motor Mile Finance..http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/motormile-finance-ltd-bradford

 

http://www.mmile.com/collection.html

Another hilarious circus.

 

Ignore them until they can fathom out how to work a pen and paper correctly.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Yes I discovered it was Motormile! Well I phoned the number and threatened that if they phoned my work again I would be reporting it to the police for harassment! Haven't heard back from them yet, we shall see what happens now. Have made a complaint now.

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You need to make that complaint in writing, stay off the phone, you probably spoke to the person in charge of filling up the polystyrene cups...

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Hi ruthdoe96,

 

I'm fairly new here myself and have been in that situation with being contacted at work. Luckily for me I have "army personnel" working the reception desk and they couldn't get past them, but still got lots of calls at home. Once I got directed to the the cease and desist telephone harrassment letter in the library and it was sent off, they backed off and it has given me the breathing space I need to sort out my affairs and deal with these clowns. More than likely as Bazooka Boo says, you probably spoke to the person in charge of the "filling up the polystyrene cups..." and so it is best to get it in writing.

 

So don't let them intimidate you or make you feel ashamed. Being in debt, regardless of how long ago the debt was, is not a crime - if that were the case, the way we are going, the government would need to build more jails and I don't think we have enough land for them!

 

If anything else develops and you are in anyway unsure what to do - :help: - get yourself on here as more experienced caggers will be able to advice and steer you onto the right course of action! :thumb:

 

Best,

 

Coffee:angel:

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Ignore these leeches. They buy written off debts for pennies and then try to scare you into paying them...

They send out stupid letters and e-mails making out you are now in default with them, then it`s a home visit etc.

HELLO! THE ORIGINAL DEBT WAS DEFAULTED...IT CANNOT BE DEFAULTED AGAIN YOU CLOWNS! YOUR GETTING SFA... SO CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR MUDPIT!

 

Thats how I treat them ;)

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I'v e dealt with these muppets in the past watch the doorstep visits as one of thier agents will call (did to my old address and pretended to be a bailiff to my ex neighbour to gain info thankfully she is wiley and got rid of him) the MD has an IVA look him up my advise is send him the tort of trespass letter and if they turn up call the police

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I also am getting automated telephone messages from these clowns. After doing some checking up on this bunch, I found out they are really bottom of the barrel material. Losers chasing after written off debts...beneath contempt.

 

Well Mr Page and Mr Petty, your tactics do not intimidate me and i would dearly love someone to come round and visit me, they might not leave in a healthy state though since it`s trespassing without a prior made appointment and I have every right to use force to remove your goon from my property. You best send a very big lad round as I`m 6 ft 3 and weigh 18 stone :mad2:

 

I will be reporting these bottom feeding losers to the OFT and OFCOM for harassment.

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