uk's benefit shame as food handouts originate from donated food from sainsbury

[Guest jsa12]

in the 21st century a new low has been quietly reached here today in the uk,namely food vouchers,even worse these are not sourced from the government but appear to donated by shoppers at sainsbury through a recommended "shopping list",the trussel trust claims to work in the uk and bulgaria.

 

 

http://www.trusselltrust.org/resources/documents/foodbank/ShoppingList.pdf

 

 

http://www.trusselltrust.org/

 

i cannot comment for others but feel this an utter disgrace that a western european country this day and allegedly age could stoop to such a level and a uk government would ever allow or participate in this and actively support such a move.presumably if no donations are made there wont be enough to go around.

 

a crisis loan is to support such an eventuality,help those on key/card meters.

[wishface]

If i had to rely on a crisis loan i'd be screwed since i'd have to pay to pick up the cheque. The jobcentre is nowhere near me and there is no provision to pay money direct to bank accounts. Scandalous. But yes, it is a disgrace that some are havign to rely on food parcels because this sickening capitalist system has yet to be fully dismantled.

[ErikaPNP]

This isn't new. DWP being directly involved is but not the concept in itself. Food banks and food vouchers by charities have been on the go for some time and do a lot of good for people, particularly those who who cannot get a Crisis Loan - those on sanctions for example. A crisis loan cannot be made during a sanction period. It's also useful to those who are not able to get through on the phone, such is the case with many. The article states that it will help those inelligible for a crisis loan, and given the number that are ineligible, this can only be a good thing.

 

I'd rather stand in line with my food vouchers than see my children starve if I wre ineligible for a crisis loan or couldn't get through on the phone.. I'm glad to see a charity that have been so proactive in helping those in poverty.

[wishface]

I don't think the point is about criticisng the idea, rather that we shouldn't have to be handing out food vouchers. THe idea that people should be going hungry in Britain in 2011 is a disgrace. The idea that people should be starved into submission by state sanctions and penalties is shameful.

[babybear39]

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[Guest jsa12]

there is more here.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11427207

 

http://www.trusselltrust.org/media-coverage

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/dec/20/jobcentre-staff-food-vouchers?INTCMP=SRCH

 

as many have been reading on the forum,the sanction system is often used as a weapon without any justification or proof of any wrongdoing,the sainsbury poster is deliberately and marketing exploitation using a child as publicity for this campaign without giving a full explanation of the wider issues regarding these vouchers and who they involve in there targeted groups,the implications of their use and the affects on uk society as a whole of such a move.

 

 

the crisis line has been like this from day one of operation,and has been allowed to operate like this unabated throughout,it would not be reasonable to assume this has not been given the attention or consideration it should have been,and the underlying problem as such is much more serious.

 

when people are faced with such a move they are inclined to do things which would not be the norm,when someone stole food from a co-op locally much was made of their apprehension and susequent arrest,however no one asked why should someone be stealing food.these items are useless without the means to cook them also.

 

maybe the popes aid was not wrong after all in the comments of a third world country,many will be enlightened by such words given the circumstances of what tantamounts to red cross parcels under a alternative guise.

Edited January 24, 2011 by jsa12
update

[SOD'EM]

If the DWP recieve your Medical Certificate too late (and they haven't got the 3 days they need to use the BACS system to put your money into your account), they will do an instant transfer on the day that your money is due (as long as they have the MC before, or on that day). You may not have it available first thing in the morning as usual, but you will have it that day. Therefore, I can't understand why a crisis loan cannot be paid in the same way?????

 

One time (whilst I was in hospital). My father (who was 74 at the time and had a broken ankle) recieved a food parcel from the DWP. He still to this day believes that the staff had a whip round and dropped it off on their way home because they would not give him a Crisis Loan????

 

I actually believed that myself, because I never knew about all this.

[Guest jsa12]

you should get a crisis loan,however the fundamentals in society such as the welfare state have come under more and more erosion,benefits harder to claim,the continued focus on sanctions on already meager benefits then the real problems associated with a roulette wheel economy that has continually emerged over the last thirty years with severe detrimental results for the uk citizen tax payer/household,much like the nhs which faces the same problem these are not ideas that came from todays increasing feckless economy however people rely on them because of its circumstances that have all to become an everyday fact hence both are targets for political mischief .