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  1. Had the appointment with the psychologist this morning. But Im through with the DWP. I cannot deal with them anymore. They couldn't even refund my busfare ffs (so how i'm even meant to get in on friday I don't know, even though they said i could collect it then, though presumably the same nonsense will happen then aswell).
  2. How can the claimant determine when he will be able to look for work again? If you say i think i'll be ok for my next signing time aren't they going to think 'yeah right', especially as it's christmas. If all they are going to do is ask you to come in when you say you might be well again then this solves nothing. Also, as the money is being paid in early to accomdodate the bank holidays, what happens if i say i'm ill on the friday (instead of tomorrow), can they recall the payment? The payment goes in on the 21st (wednesday) to clear the following week, as normal, so if i ring up friday morning, when i'm next due to sign, aren't they just going to again think 'yeah right' and recall/stop the payment? What is a work psychologist anyway?
  3. A form isn't going to show up for weeks after being posted/sent back at this time of year, so they are certainly going to think 'he's having a laugh'. What guarantee is there that the reason you provide will be accepted? Heck of a gamble to take on the basis that it's your word against theirs? Won't they just insist you come in at the first available opportunity after the regular signing date (ie the 23rd), say the 28th, and therefore all that will be acheived is delaying the inevitable? Surely they don't completely excuse someone from signing until their next due date? Are these forms online? Thanks for the response, but i'm going to need to know all the facts 100% clearly before i commit to this course of action no matter how i feel given that the consequence could mean losing my benefit.
  4. How do you declare a period of sickness? Won't you need something to back that up? Presumably they'd want me to come in on the 2nd of January instead of the 23rd (and then on the 6th, which would be my next time). That doesn't seem a better solution, and I have no doubts they'll just decide I'm faking it and sanction me.
  5. I'm guessing the answer is no, but does anyone know what systems in place exist at the dwp for people that just can't cope with signing on anymore. I'm reallys truggling with depression and stress right now; I have two appointments with the JC next week, on monday I have to see a 'work psychologist' (whatever that is, probably another peddler of the Work Programme), and I have to sign on friday (the day before christmas, when of course there will be loads of people hiring). I can't face it. I'm struggling to cope with this time of year as it is, I don't get on with the winter (especially in a freezing cold house). I can't get a doctor's appointment anytime soon either. Is there anything I can do to get the JC to back off for now, or is that wishful thinking? Thanks.
  6. My signing time, over christmas, will fall on the 23rd, which is a friday. I believe the JC is open then (it doesn't say otherwise). Is this normal practise, this close the christmas? It'd be nice to not have to go in and take a break.
  7. I've been to these 'refuse' sites, but I'm not convinced. Not because I'm against them - far from it. I just cannot see these letters and the whole refusal on the basis the 'work programme' isn't counted as a proper employment scheme. That seems like a very trivial technicality that, in this right wing anti-#scrounger' era, will get you precisely nowhere. Good luck to anyone trying this, but it's far more likely the JC will just sanction you and you will have to pay a hell of a cost and fight hard to remove it. I'm also not sure what they are trying to argue; as I said it just sounds like a technicality. Unfortunately I find these sites not particularly laid out well, and for people like me this info needs to be made as clear and direct as possible, and the authors need to know the law 110% because if they don't claimants are going to get annihilated. I'm not trying to be negative, but the reality is harsh. I would very much like to have a discussion about this because if there's a legal way to extricate myself from this preocess -whenever it happens - I want to know. The last time I was sent to such a place I couldn't cope. I ended up getting an assessment at the local community mental health team and signed off. I've said to my GP ever since that having to go through all that sort of crap again will do me no favours. Sadly GP's don't understand the welfare experience and the system doesn't care for your health - especially if ATOS declare you fit.
  8. Noone that is classed as disabled is being found unfit for work, regardless. There is no attempt made to accomodate people's needs or problems. This is what concerns me most about the Work Programme. My experience with similar schemes tells me that nothing ever changes with the DWP. People will be forced into group sessions, which I really can't deal with, for 'inductions' or 'workshops' or whatever other nonsense these privateers dream up to make more money. When I was on ESA I made the effort to contact back to work groups on my own and was able to be seen by them in ways that were suitable to me. They weren't able to help (partly due to funding constrants that have only gotten worse so that these WP privateers are the only ones able to get funding), but at least i was able to meet with them in mutually acceptable conditions at times of my choosing, one to one. The WP won't be like that.
  9. That's assuming they accept the conditions as more than minor/trivial. Becuase of course if they were I wouldn't have failed the ATOS medical, now would I!
  10. What happens if you feel so bloody stressed you just can't handle all this being told what to do and where to go and made to do all this nonsense? Sanction, i suppose.
  11. Can anyone confirm if you must be signing for 12 months, if over 25, before you can be referred to the Work programme? Thanks.
  12. It has been rescheduled and is now for tomorrow 9am. Unfortunately I'm really anxious about it. What can I expect? What horrors await? Everytime I have to go to sign on I just brace myself for the worst, anticipating them stopping my money. I keep a log, but there's no work and I find it a real struggle.
  13. As I said, they know that I rely on the bus service. So yes there obviously restrictions since I can't travel otherwise can I! If i was in work it would be exactly the same thing. Why do you assume otherwise? If an employer suddenly decided, for some inexcplicable reason, I had to be somehwere I couldn't get to at a specific time I couldn't make then he'd be disappointed. And if i was offered a job, which is what you are really trying to ask, that I couldn't attend for the same reasons then I wouldn't accept it.
  14. I'm not asking the system be changed for one person at all.
  15. Why are you making excuses for a broken system? This is all the more reason for them to properly arrange appointments with clients. Just booking appointments arbitarily regardless of whether you live 10 miles or 10 minutes walk away is clearly going to cause problems. I don't really care how many people they have to see, that's their problem. What I care about, and what they are charged (and paid) with doing is dealing with clients properly. If that means swapping appointments around to make it better for all concerned then yes, that's the best way of doing it. The best thing all round however is to consult with the client and book an appointment that is convenient for them. Until then they sign as normal. Using excuses such as 'well if you had a job..' is just fatuous and patronising.
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