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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. 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In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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sorry to read of the default judgement. hopefully, you'll be able to get it set aside.

 

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i cant believe that after speaking with them they assured me that they told the court they had agreed to the extension of time with me but were unable to tell me a date as they were having to write to mbna to get the documents - are you telling me now that i still should have done the n244 even on my last day of defense and ignored what they told me about the extension? as you were short on time re deadline that's why i pointed out before also that if you couldn't get an 'official' extension in time, then consider maybe submitting a defence in time anyway (which could've included a request for an order that they produce as per your request, and a request for permission to amend accordingly)!, which would've avoided the default judgement. never rely totally on what 'they' 'say'. hopefully though, you'll be able to get it set aside.

 

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the problem though Ford, is file a defence and then you are liable for the costs of the other party amending later.

 

Use the rules to your advantage and you will be ok, but you cant sit on your hands and be slow to react thats the problem,

 

I would put £1000 on this and say if you file an embarrased Defence and i was the file handler on the other side, i would get my client the costs as a result of your amendments later, and the last costs order i saw was £3,500 summarily assessed against the debtor as a result of the amended defence.

 

It is risky either way you go,

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not necessarily PT re liability re costs. as per my points before. so, in the circumstances file a defence or get default judgement against? which is preferable?

alot depends on the circumstances. in this case OP had no/little time left to get an 'official' extension. therefore, to avoid def judgement (which happened) a defence needed to be submitted!? and the defence could've included a request for an order etc

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yes, you would be liable for costs, it is the general rule

 

however, why cant there by an application on notice ?

 

why cant the op make a 31.14 request? when the 7 days expire,. why couldnt an app be made?

 

My view is that this then freezes the case until the app is dealt with, no judgment can be entered, and you would seek an order for the timing of the defence,

 

Plus you get costs against the Claimant on the basis of his failing to adhere to the rules

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i understand what you say re costs and application. but my points before are valid re costs. OP didn't have enough time left to get an 'official' extension. so, to avoid a default J a defence needed to be submitted.? and the defence could've included a request for an order for compliance etc!? what would you have suggested in the circumstances? submit a defence in time, or rely on what was 'said' and risk a default J? costs are not automatically awarded, depends on the circumstances and reasonableness etc.

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i had thought (as i mentioned before) from what was posted that Angel had little or no sufficient time left as the deadline was imminent?

 

ps. yes, if there is sufficient time, then as you rightly say, get an extension/do an individual application etc

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hi PT

apologies if i have confused things. originally, i had thought that Angel was very close to being out of time to do things, so i suggested also that the submission of a defence in time may be worthwhile (so as to avoid a default judgement (and also possibly for the benefit of cpr 38.7 if they decided to discontinue)) if an extension of the defence deadline couldn't be agreed in time and/or an application couldn't be made in time. hope this clarifies. :-)

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hello pt and ford

 

many thanks for your huge input on my behalf, came back tonight to see what i can do

 

I have to agree, i need to be more savvy in these things and while ive read threads and tried to understand what is being said to me i too also have to be clear in what is happening my end

 

reading back i think i didnt explain properly where i was at each stage, i got the court papers, sent in my defense online about after 10 days - before the 14 days deadline, then i sent my cpr 31.14 letter, the 7 days was officially the wed before i needed to put in my defense the following monday,

i tried to get the verbal extension time agreement on the saturday was told that it would be escalated to the legal team for monday as they had no legal team working on saturday, i rang on the monday morning first thing, and was told it had already been sent by their london office for judgement, but they confirmed to me that they had already confirmed with the court to agree to hold it on file and they agreed to an extension but were unable to give me a date but would allow me at least 7 days after i had received their documentation, only proof i have is the phone call records made to their telephone number and my calls to the court.

 

~Of course when i had called the court the judgement had been rejected as my defense was still due by 4pm that monday,

hence i got the agreement verbally and then sent the letter with a full explanation of the above and faxed the court which they received well before the 4pm deadline, but i didnt do the n244 or any defense~

 

the letter from the court states judgement was entered by the claimant on the 16.11.10 i guess by manual effort, and thus the N244 form has been enclosed for me to complete if i consider this to be incorrect, which is where i think i stand but whilst i understand the application for judgement to be set aside is not automatically granted surely i have proof of

my cpr letter being received by link correctly - i have a signature,

my phone records to link and the court

my fax letter received by the court before my deadline to summit my defense

how can i now word the n244 correctly for any fighting chance - the notes suggest that i provide a reason for disputing the judgement that has been recorded.

 

== from this you are absolutely right pt, once any claim comes in the future as soon as i get it i put in my acknowledgement of service, then send out the cpr31.14 if not received any info by the 7 days, ring on the 8th day and get confirmation in writing from them, if i dont get any info that is required - then send in the n244 a few days before the last day my defense is due to be summitted - this way i hope to avoid what has happened to me on this one====

 

i look forward to all your wise words as i know that i wont be doing this mistake again but hey we learn from our mistakes, and things that have happened in my private life kind of took over my time which i will in the future ensure i deal with this kind of court defense more promptly

 

cheers for your help everyone

 

angel x

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fab thank you lots, i feel so much better now have a fun day tomorrow will log in again tomorrow cheers angel x

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hiya all

 

further to my post no 63 just thinking now = would it be wise of me to confirm my telephone conversations with the claimants with them and like you said pt2537 in your posts nos 49, 51 and 52 can i clarify then by obtaining the verbal agreement with them which i also confirmed in my letter faxed to the court, would it be wise to send the claimants a letter either me requesting that i have the information in 28 days from that date for them to reply to our agreed extension or to confirm in writing to me when they plan to have the info sent to me... or should i just do the n244 and put in the facts of this and include a copy of my fax that the court received in time before the deadline of my defense time on that day.

 

so am i right that all is not yet lost as long as i now follow to the letter what you all tell me and im really sorry i confused when exactly the defense was due and had left it really late to that day

 

cheers for your input much appreciated

 

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hiya all just looking in for any further advice re my last post

 

cheers will look in again after 1pm today

 

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Angel

 

Who is it you are trying to get disclosure from?

 

If its the party to the court proceedings, then they cannot hide behind data protection at all,

 

hiy pt2537

 

in reply to this it was alliance and leicester who the mbna card was with who now and i wonder if they have Really sold it to link as im not really sure as i noticed an email in my inbox the other day stating my online statement was available to view from alliance and leicester, but if they had sold to link why the email ref this account

 

perhaps i should now do a sars to link - which im happy to do if it will help with my set aside and n244 form im still unsure what to put in have put my concerns on my own thread

 

sorry to keep asking questions, but once learnt the answer wont be asking them again

 

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hiya all

 

further to having read posts no;s from 27 to 32 on this below thread

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?281982-Court-claim-from-Link-Financial.-Please-help.

 

this is interesting and is where i should have been if i had done things a lot quicker, but now having to do the n244 for a set aside instead

 

having read a lot of info on the links given by everyone thank you

 

i believe i have to state i have sent in my aos, and agreed with the claimaint for an extension of time but the ccj was wrongly applied in error as my confirming fax letter arrived at the court Before the end of the defense time i had to put in my defense

therefore i am requesting that the set aside is considered as i am still awaiting on the cpr 31.14 requested info by me from the claimant

and until i receive the info i cannot put in my defense

 

any other help appreciated cheers angel x

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hiya all - polite bump will wait and log in afternoon cheers angel x

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further to links above, also note Parts 12 and 13 of the Civil Procedure Rules

 

eg part 13.3

 

Cases where the court may set aside or vary judgment entered under Part 12

 

13.3

 

(1) In any other case, the court may set aside(GL) or vary a judgment entered under Part 12 if –

(a) the defendant has a real prospect of successfully defending the claim; or

 

(b) it appears to the court that there is some other good reason why –

(i) the judgment should be set aside or varied; or

 

(ii) the defendant should be allowed to defend the claim.

 

(2) In considering whether to set aside(GL) or vary a judgment entered under Part 12, the matters to which the court must have regard include whether the person seeking to set aside the judgment made an application to do so promptly.

(Rule 3.1(3) provides that the court may attach conditions when it makes an order)

(Article 19(4) of the Service Regulation (which has the same meaning as in rule 6.31(e)) applies to applications to appeal a judgment in default when the time limit for appealing has expired.)

 

etc

 

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thank you Ford

 

i have also now read the info ref set aside where you gave me the link, i understand that i have to basically include everything i did and what was told to me by the claimants and to date i still have not received any reply to my cpr31.14 letter but have had other info from the claimants more or less requesting payment information from me, thus i should include everything on the n244 shouldnt i, and also state i was unable to put in any defense as claimant had advised me that they had asked the court to stay the claim until i had received their info to prepare my defense, but of course that has not happened as they requested the judgement again the day after my defense was due. So in the best interests of justice i politely request that the judgement is set aside and for me to receive the documents promised and then be allowed for me to present my defense

 

is the above okay as such to enter on the n244?

 

cheers again angel x

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hiya pt2537

 

further to my previous post 111. thinking now can i request a sars to the party who are in the proceedings now ie Link Financial i understand the 40 days for them to send me info, would it be useful at this moment to me as im trying to get the set aside done anyway

 

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SAR request attached, allow up to 40 days to reply, send with £10 postal order by recorded and sign in the dotted box. If they know you from a previous address, amend the last para to give previous address and attach a copy of a utility bill.

 

May be worth you starting your own thread on this to give the full picture?

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hiya coledog thanks for the info, and here is my thread if you can spare a moment to read cheers angel x

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?282042-Link-Financial-court-summons-rec-need-help-pls

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