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Hey,

 

There was thread on here last week (a few years old I think) about the Train 4 Trade Skills (T4TS) scams. The thread has gone missing and it seems like its been deleted.

 

The URL was (I had it bookmarked):

 

ww w.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?225825-Train-4-Trade-Skills-problem

 

(If the thread hadn't disappeared, I would have had enough posts to post the url properly.)

 

Now it just leads to an error. Iv checked my post history and theres no mention of it and the link in my email also leads to nothing (I received the email a few days before I noticed the thread was gone. The email was just notifying me of a reply to the thread.

 

Iv sent an email to admin but no reply. I can only think it was deleted, but no idea why as T4TS wouldn't take them to court (they don't even take their non-paying students/customers to court).

 

Is it worthwhile me starting a new thread about it or could that also have the same fate?

 

Any help is appreciated thank you.

 

R.I.U.

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Same here, thanks for posting this random. I have quite a bit of the previous postings but I don't remember anything particularly controversial that would have led to deletion of the whole thread. I too have emailed admin for their comments. Hopefully they will reinstate it completely or edit the areas of issue. It was a very worthwhile thread and considering the fundamental purpose of these forums I would be surprised if it wasn't at least reinstated in part.

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on a lighter note though I got a letter from Hitachi today saying they had "sold" may agreement to CDF. I smell a win coming on lol

 

Naa, Hitachi proberly just don't want to deal with this so you just gotta deal with T4TS.

 

 

Had some debt company email,text, phone me then the threatning letter working on behalf of CDF ,i thought that these debt companies bought the debt and tried to get the money out of you.

 

Can't you get them done for harrasement? And don't worry about them, they need to go to court to do anything (like that will ever happen).

 

Never mind the letter got filed in the bin

 

Nice filing structure. :D

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Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

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Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

Best wishes,

 

Seq.

 

while I appreciate you replying, I am ashamed that the forum deleted it. EVERY reply was from a personal view and helping give a balance of views (negative from us, positive from T4TS).

** MOD EDIT: Please avoid potentially libellous comments **

 

. Im out of their grip and hopefully I'v helped a couple more in the right direction, as well as the other regular posters. Thanks guys ;)

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im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

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best of luck fella, if there is anything you need feel free to ask, i've got plenty of letters from them along with copies of the questionable material. I'll also gladly make a statement concerning their "hard sell" tactics. im still dealing with the credit companies at the mo but when that runs dry i guess i'll be in your position so if you can win this then that will mean alot to my position

 

a user called mr_angry has a load of usefull bits as well, you might want to contact him and see if he will be happy to share

 

cheers

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im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

 

Good luck pal. If you need anything I posted, I'll be happy to email it to you. Just send me a PM. Don't know if it will be of use.... may help prove your paperwork isn't a 1 off or something. Please let us know how it goes.

 

So basically you have deemed the t4ts thread as libelous ,so you have deemed to be judge and jury , sad sad day for the just.

 

Its because their scared. Its a shame CAG couldn't grow a pair.

 

And someone please close the window, its cold and free speech has blown out the window, along with loads of helpful posts. :mad2:

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