Thread gone missing, deleted?

[random.internet.user]

Hey,

 

There was thread on here last week (a few years old I think) about the Train 4 Trade Skills (T4TS) scams. The thread has gone missing and it seems like its been deleted.

 

The URL was (I had it bookmarked):

 

ww w.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?225825-Train-4-Trade-Skills-problem

 

(If the thread hadn't disappeared, I would have had enough posts to post the url properly.)

 

Now it just leads to an error. Iv checked my post history and theres no mention of it and the link in my email also leads to nothing (I received the email a few days before I noticed the thread was gone. The email was just notifying me of a reply to the thread.

 

Iv sent an email to admin but no reply. I can only think it was deleted, but no idea why as T4TS wouldn't take them to court (they don't even take their non-paying students/customers to court).

 

Is it worthwhile me starting a new thread about it or could that also have the same fate?

 

Any help is appreciated thank you.

 

R.I.U.

[rebel11]

Hi random,

 

I'd wait for ADMIN to come back to you, before starting another thread.

[random.internet.user]

Yeah thats what I was thinking but doubt they will reply to my email as im sure they would be too busy. Do they or moderators read this section regularly?

 

Thanks.

[rebel11]

Hi Random

 

They might be busy, but they will respond.

[TjW1072]

Just checked for the first time in ages and noticed this too. Very strange. I haven't posted anything now lol!!!

[Telemicus]

Same here, thanks for posting this random. I have quite a bit of the previous postings but I don't remember anything particularly controversial that would have led to deletion of the whole thread. I too have emailed admin for their comments. Hopefully they will reinstate it completely or edit the areas of issue. It was a very worthwhile thread and considering the fundamental purpose of these forums I would be surprised if it wasn't at least reinstated in part.

[fellinglikeamug]

ditto here, couldn't believe it. all that invaluable info lost for what? im guessing we are no longer entitled to our opinions when it comes to companies that are blatently trying to rip us off. hope you get a straight answer from them random!

[manchesteruni]

ht tp:// press.eversheds.com/Press-releases/Eversheds-scores-High-Court-defamation-victory-7cc.aspx possibly may have something to do with it ?

 

(can't do links yet either)

 

Extract here http :// vlex.co.uk/vid/hq09x01852-61164147

[random.internet.user]

But how can it? We are expressing our own opinions and helping people who share our opinions.

 

The last I heard, we had free speech.

[andycollette]

Hi all my posts have been zeroed no mention of t4ts strange

[fellinglikeamug]

on a lighter note though I got a letter from Hitachi today saying they had "sold" may agreement to CDF. I smell a win coming on lol

[andycollette]

Had some debt company email,text, phone me then the threatning letter working on behalf of CDF ,i thought that these debt companies bought the debt and tried to get the money out of you.

Never mind the letter got filed in the bin

[random.internet.user]

on a lighter note though I got a letter from Hitachi today saying they had "sold" may agreement to CDF. I smell a win coming on lol

 

Naa, Hitachi proberly just don't want to deal with this so you just gotta deal with T4TS.

 

 

Had some debt company email,text, phone me then the threatning letter working on behalf of CDF ,i thought that these debt companies bought the debt and tried to get the money out of you.

 

Can't you get them done for harrasement? And don't worry about them, they need to go to court to do anything (like that will ever happen).

 

Never mind the letter got filed in the bin

 

Nice filing structure.

[andycollette]

Yeah just love them to take it to court then at least i can have my say .

I still see some training bodies still maintain there is a shortage of plumbers , not round this way, i see t4ts are looking to train people to be handypersons.

[andycollette]

My personal view as to the thread being removed is when some other unsuspecting person does a bit of research on t4ts it does not look so bad only a few have a complaint about t4ts when in fact its very much more.

[sequenci]

Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

Best wishes,

 

Seq.

[random.internet.user]

Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

Best wishes,

 

Seq.

 

while I appreciate you replying, I am ashamed that the forum deleted it. EVERY reply was from a personal view and helping give a balance of views (negative from us, positive from T4TS).

** MOD EDIT: Please avoid potentially libellous comments **

 

. Im out of their grip and hopefully I'v helped a couple more in the right direction, as well as the other regular posters. Thanks guys

[sequenci]

Can I respectfully remind you of the site rules:

 

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[luke_10men]

im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

[luke_10men]

,,

[fellinglikeamug]

best of luck fella, if there is anything you need feel free to ask, i've got plenty of letters from them along with copies of the questionable material. I'll also gladly make a statement concerning their "hard sell" tactics. im still dealing with the credit companies at the mo but when that runs dry i guess i'll be in your position so if you can win this then that will mean alot to my position

 

a user called mr_angry has a load of usefull bits as well, you might want to contact him and see if he will be happy to share

 

cheers

[andycollette]

So basically you have deemed the t4ts thread as libelous ,so you have deemed to be judge and jury , sad sad day for the just.

[random.internet.user]

im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

 

Good luck pal. If you need anything I posted, I'll be happy to email it to you. Just send me a PM. Don't know if it will be of use.... may help prove your paperwork isn't a 1 off or something. Please let us know how it goes.

 

So basically you have deemed the t4ts thread as libelous ,so you have deemed to be judge and jury , sad sad day for the just.

 

Its because their scared. Its a shame CAG couldn't grow a pair.

 

And someone please close the window, its cold and free speech has blown out the window, along with loads of helpful posts.

[andycollette]

Yes very cold, got drs phoning every day ,not sure how this works have they taken the debt so called,or is it as i believe that if you are in dispute they cannot pass the so called debt on ?!!! just seems they want to complicate the fact .

[random.internet.user]

If they phone everyday then make a complaint that their harassing you.