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    • Pro peace/anti war/anti-atrocity marches which included many Jewish protestors carrying banners (as previously linked)  decrying the atrocities of Israel and the IDF such as 'Not in my name' 'Never again to ANY people'   Although a very small handful of unconscionable Hamas supporters were among the many MANY thousands of pro peace protestors, even they displayed nothing like the hatred and violence demonstrated by the 100 or so far right rabble who attacked police, tried to attack the peaceful protestors and then attempted to violently breach the cenotaph itself. The pro peace/end atrocities in Palestine protests have remained largely peaceful despite ongoing atrocities by the state of Israel and the IDF.   Even today, unarmed starving civilians in a supposedly safe camp in Gaza were murdered by shelling and bombing from afar by Israeli forces, while violent Israeli settlers have forcefully deposed more Palestians from their homes and lands on the west bank with the aide and support of Israeli military forces - just as the Israeli forces are forcibly relocating civilians in Gaza with even more horrors, atrocities and violence. These atrocities by the IDF in Gaza include starvation, forced relocation, bombing homes, health centers and refugee camps, denying food water and medical support, murdering journalists and health workers and the mass murder of women and children  .. are growing alarmingly reminiscent of some similar but wider scale utterly monstrous genocidal atrocities by Nazis on the Jewish people, which makes these actions by Israel and the IDF even more unconscionable and deplorable.  
    • Hi all, I was wondering what peoples thoughts / advice is for my following situation. Unfortunately, I have been caught speeding on the m6 - 56mph in a temporary 40 zone. I did not realise that the speed for the current stretch I was on, was reduced to a 40, I knew that some parts was bought down to 50mph but not 40. Ultimately, it is on own fault for not being more focused at the time.  I was wondering whether anyone caught doing similar speeds over the limit have been offered a speed awareness course. My letter states that the records show I have not met the criteria for a speed awareness course, which I feel is harsh given this is my first offence & the threshold for consideration is upto 53mph as stated below, our speed narrowly exceeded the limit and falls within the guidelines set out by the National Police Chief Council (NPCC) up to: 31 mph in a 20 mph area 42 mph in a 30 mph area 53 mph in a 40 mph area. Could I argue that my speedometer is not entirely accurate as such I should be considered in the 53mph bracket above and considered for a speed awareness course?  
    • Hi dx, Thanks for getting back to me about my queries. Why do think making token payments to my nationwide CC is the best approach?  Also, in general how often do nationwide go for CCJs themselves? Thanks again
    • Hi, She said the machine actually tells you how much you have to pay and you pay on your card. I've actually emailed evology who make the machine to ask for an explanation as to how this can happen - in essence it is 1min over! With regards to the 8 mins one, she is adamant the the machine said no charge when she left - her ex-boyfriend was with her in the car and he confirmed this so god knows what is going on. Worth chancing the set aside? With regards to G24, not done anything yet - not sure I want to alert them to the other address - should I just write and confirm the Scottish address with no reference to anything else? Thanks for your time FTMDave. T.
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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hi can some one help me out i know someone who has had there goods taken off them by bayv today the person also had said to him if he had goods for over 3yr he would not of been able to taken them is this true ? also if they take goods back is the det owed quashed ?


thank you hop[e you understand this

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you may need to explain more m8. there is plenty of help on here :)


tis person i know has been with bayv for a good few yrs now yesterday bayv came out for payment but he was sort so he told them he did not have the rest of the money to pay the person from bayv said he would be back today to take goods from him anyway today came and he came to take goods but this person from bayv said to him if the goods he had had been paying for had been over 3yrs he told him they could not take them cause they were 2 weeks under the 3yr they could take them away is this true what he has said to him also he told him that his det for these goods will be quashed and he will owe nothing is this true ?


thank you hope u understand this

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there is information about how and when buy as you view can remove items in my thread here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/brighthouse-other-rent-own/249198-bayv-customer-agreement.html


it depends on quite a few things dont know where you stand on if you would still owe the debt i think it depends how far through the debt you are. hope this helps.

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You might want to reconsider them as a company to buy from, ive got this off facebook, apparently a customer purchased a washer from them and this happened! (check the photo below)



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In principle the campaign is a worthy one and is highlighting injustice,but the language being used is not in keeping with what we think CAG members should be exposed to reading....and certainly not language that would be acceptable on here.

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The Damaged Washing Machine Pictured Above Was Mine Purchased From Buy As You View Under The H P Agreement.

It Was Found To Be Faulty

That Is Why It Burst Into Flames.

The Cost Of The Damage To The Kitchen Area Was A Massive £8,ooo.

After Living In Terrible Conditions For 6 Months No Gas No Kitchen Facilities With Young Children In The Home

B A Y V Operations Director I Found Very Helpfull Indeed She Actually Took The Bull By The Hornsstood No Nonsense And Got The Job Put Right.

She Visited The Site And Met With Us In An Attempt To Put This Matter Right.

Indeset The Machine Manufacturer Was Really No Help At All To Us .

They Employed A Loss Adjuster Who Showed Very Little If Any Sympathy Towards Our Situation,he Was Going To Drag It On But This Director From B A Y V Said Not A Chance It Will Be Sorted .

But I Must Add Indeed Without The Intervention Of The Director At B A Y V This Would Never Been Sorted Out.

My Overall Disapointment Here Was The Fact That The Loss Adjuster Was Really Intimidating Very Unhelpfull Indeed.

We Are Left To Replace Items And Redecorate Rooms Effected By Smoke Damage,cost Of Laundry Meals Ectwhilst In This Postion Was Never Ever Considered At All.

The Lengh Of Time We Had To Endure This And Suffering That Took Place By Our Family.we Was Never Offered A Penny Of Compensation From No Person At All.

We Was Told That Under The Agreement Our Only Redress Was Under The Supply Of Goods Act Implied Terms 1973.this Is The Legislation That Covers Such Agreements That B A Y V Issue .

On No Occasion Indeed Did We Get An Apology From Indeset Or B A Y V Regarding This Matter That Is Most Dissapointing Indeed.

Credit Is Given To The Director Who Did Her Best And Sorted Out The Kitchen.

When That Was Done They Just Vanished And No More Was Heard From Them.

Very Little Faith Indeed In Any Indeset Products There Customer Services Was Awfull Indeed.

Never In My Life Have Our Family Had To Suffer Through No Fault Of Our Own At The Hands Of Companys Like Indeset B A Y V Loss Adjusters Who Deep Down Apart From The Director Of B A Y V Never Really Gave A Toss What Had Happened.

Left Here Really Out Of Pocket And Very Disheartend In The Manner We Have Been Treated.

But With A Bit Of Luck Our Experience Might Benefit Others On Here How To Deal With This Crisis If Ever It Happens To Anyone Else.

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