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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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The annoying thing is I pay these muppets £6.95 a month so I can keep a check of my Credit Report, they even offer to help if you have any issues....

 

Very helpful theyve been! :-)

 

Ill send an email over to them now to request the details of their complaints proceedure.

 

Again, thanks for the pointers...

 

I am just about to send the following...

 

Thankyou for your promptual response.

I am far from happy the way in which both Lowell’s and yourselves have conducted yourselves in this matter and would like to know you procedures for making a complaint about your service.

I fully understand that you cannot get involved in disputes between alleged debtors and creditors but in my opinion if falsely submitted records are held I am well within my rights to question the authenticity, and as they were ILLEGALLY added (whist the alleged debts were in dispute) a number of guidelines as set out by the OFT have been breached.

I look forward to your reply and confirmation on how to lodge a complaint before I seek legal advice.

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The annoying thing is I pay these muppets £6.95 a month so I can keep a check of my Credit Report, they even offer to help if you have any issues....

 

 

Well that's two extra pints of beer you can have a month from now on!!;)

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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I paid of a debt to Lowell/Red/Hamptons - or whatever they want to call themselves now!!

This was back in 2004 - a long time ago.

I still get the odd letter (annually) and recently had a text message asking me to contact them (Hamptons), followed by an alert from experian that someone had searched my credit file. Low and behold it turns out to be Lowell Finacial Ltd - an unrecorded search.

This debt has vanished from my credit file as you would expect after such a long period.

My question is (as a newby) what is my best course of action now?

I have read a lot of these threads and find them all amusingly real, but like many of the people using/registered on this site probably dont know where to begin. Maybe one of the learned moderators could point me in the correct direction of a template letter?? or they may even want to do a separate thread to aid such "newbies"??

Any thoughts welcome - apart from just ignoring them - would be welcome.

StokiePotter has the right idea in the last link - may I use that template?

 

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My question is (as a newby) what is my best course of action now?
Just wait until they contact you, there's no point in sending template letters until you know exactly what they're up to. ;)

 

Have a read of http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/welcome-consumer-forums/107001-how-do-i-dummies.html it might help you navigate around the site.

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Pritchrd1,

 

Welcome to the site :-)

 

You are definately in the right place.... The easiest thing to do though is to start a new thread, this makes it easily identifiable for other people to stumble across it.

 

I am having a complete and utter mare with Lowells / Red / H&L and whatever they like to call themselves so I sympathise with anybody who has to deal with these muppets.

 

You say you have paid the debt off? do you have a record of payments etc....

 

Like I said, start up a thread and watch these happy "helpful" posters come along and advise you.... you cant go far wrong with the folks on here ;)

 

"Good Luck"

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Looks like I am acyually getting somewhere....

 

I received the following from the Leeds Muppets today :-)

 

Dear Mr XXXXX

 

REF - XXXXXXX

 

We write further to our recent communication regarding the above account.

 

After reviewing the account, we are prepared ro take a commercial view in relation to this matter and as a gesture of goodwill and strictly withut any admision of liability, we are prepared ro close the account and write-off any outstanding balance.

 

We trust you will find this satisfactory and that this matter is now closed, however should you have any further concerns, please do not hesitat to contact us on 0844 844 4720.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Ive just called at spoke to Gavin who again was surprising a pleasant chap (but was obviously reading from an autocue).... to ask about the removal of the default on my Credit File, apparently it now has nothing to do with them as the account is closed :confused:

 

Looks like Im gonna be faffing about trying to get the default removed now :mad: I think I may have to start charging them an hourly rate for all the running around and faffing about I have had to do....

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so the default placed by them,will be left because it is nothing to do with them:rolleyes:

 

the default will be left,to still affect you,because you have pi**ed them off,questioned them and they have had to throw in the towel.

 

would start with a direct complaint to bob and ask him for a response to the stupid statement made by the lowell employee.

 

SAM

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Sam,

 

Thanks again for your pointers ;-)

 

Ive just sent the following to Mr Collins, I have also cc'd my contact at Trading Standards.....

 

Wonder if Ill get a sensible reply?

 

Dear Sir,

 

Please let me introduce myself, my reference number that you will know me as, is - XXXXXX

 

My name is "StokiePotter" and have found myself in a position where I have been constantly harrassed by all 3 of your in-house companies (Lowells / Red & Hamptons Legal).

 

I was contacted by one of the aforementioned companies way back in 2006 in regards to a "debt" that you had purchased from O2 in regards to an old mobile phone account. In my wisdom, I contacted O2 direct to question the "alleged" debt but was told that, unfortuantely they were in no position to discuss the account with me as it had been "sold" to a collection agency (which was obviously either Lowells / Red / Hamptons?!)

 

Again, I contacted RED? to discuss the matter via telephone and requested that I was sent confirmation of the "debt" and also a breakdown of where the "alleged" amount had materialised from, I heard nothing, but was constantly barrarged with demands of payment before "The Heavy Boys" were sent around to visit me.....

 

I again contacted your company, but as I was concerned by your threats, I made an agreement to pay £20 per month towards the account, I again asked for proof and a full breakdown of where the figure you had quoted had come from?!? Still nothing!!

 

Upon making enquiries, I was informed that as you were unable to supply me with the information I requested, I was well within my rights to cease making any payments until a full breakdown was provided.

 

I then sent a letter to your PO Box address in Leeds on the 20th September 2008 (which is attached) this was sent via recorded post and was signed for on the 21st September 2008, I heard absolutely nothing from your company until I received a text message on the 15th July 2009, advising me to contact your office, then again on the 16th & 17th July.

 

I called the number quoted on the 17th July and reminded the call operator that I had requested details of the account in September the previous year and as you were now harrassing me I would make an official complaint to the OFT if it continued, true to his word the text messages ceased.

 

Then following a refusal for credit (to purchase a new car), I checked my Credit File to see that Lowells had registered a Default on my file, please note that I was not informed of your intentions to do so, which in itself breaks regulations as set out by the OFT, as A- I was not formally informed of your intention to add the default and B- The default was added whilst the account was in dispute.

 

Today (2nd September 2009) I have received a letter from Lowells (dated 27th August 2009) to inform me and I quote....

 

"After reviewing the account, we are prepared to take a commercial view in relation to this matter and as a gesture of goodwill and strictly without any admission of liability, we are prepared to close the account and write-off any outstanding balance"

 

I have just spoken to a colleague at Lowells (Gavin), to ask aout the removal of the default from my credit file, as Experian are not prepared to remove it without "your" permission (even though it was unlawfully added) and was informed that Lowells would not remove it as the account has been passed back to O2?!? but as it was Lowells who have added the default, isnt it down to you to remove?

 

Please could you offer some clarification in regards to the whole matter as I have every intention of making a formal complaint ot both the FOS and Trading Standards in regards to your practises, as well as looking into claiming compensation for the financial loses I have endured following the Default you have added to my Credit File.

 

Your prompt reply would be greatly appreciated,

 

Sits and waits patiently.....

 

Ill prob just have a txt message off them in about 12months ;)

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works long hours our bob;)

 

cause he is trying his best to improve customer relations

 

to reduce all the unfortunate errors

 

and restoring lowell to its former status(not sure what this was:rolleyes:)

 

at least this is the crap he spouted last week

 

see what he comes back with.hopefully a sorry,case closed...grovel grovel

 

SAM

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UPDATE....

 

True to his word, Mr Collins emailed me back on Monday :)

 

He has confirmed that the account is closed, has also personally reassured me that the default will be removed from my file (even though Gavin insisted it had bugger'all to do with them) AND..... get this....... He has also confirmed that they will be refunding me the money that I had paid to them in regards to the account so "RESULT!"

 

Again, thankyou for your pointers and advice, well see if the default gets removed and am waiting patiently on the refund :D

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:Dyou cynic

 

bob wont allow another error within the lowell group

 

 

may find a further mistake is made though,instead of throwing your details out,they might go into the "send to muck hall pile"

 

hope not,and its the last you hear from them.

 

SAM

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