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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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2 points re Cascada name change from Kopie to Eshuijs

1 if ACS Law have changed the name on the court order after using it surely it makes the court order null and void and therefore they obtained the iP addresses's unlawfully or by deception.

2 If The Cascada track was 1 file in the named torrent file it does not necessarily mean that particular file was downloaded or even part downloaded.

 

If anybody can confirm or deny these points please let us know

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Can I just ask is your Court Order dated the 17th February 2010 or has it a different date on ?.

My date is the same also the name is only changed from Kopie to Eshuijs on the front page, on the back it still reads Allan Kopie

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My date is the same also the name is only changed from Kopie to Eshuijs on the front page, on the back it still reads Allan Kopie

 

Mine also has the name change from Kopie to Eshuijs. Also, the ip address does not match my pc.

Strange how most of (or all) the cases are for the tracks by "cascada" or "The ministry of sound".

 

Don't think I'm even going to reply to these [problematic].

 

Watch this if your still paranoid YouTube - Davenport Lyons - threatening letters.

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Although i'm sure I didn't download the track I have no way of proving it as my PC gave up on me months ago and I had to replace it with a spanking new Laptop. Will they be able to take this away even though I purchased it in March 2010 and this supposed download upload happened last year. As I only received the letter yesterday they can not accuse me of ditching the evidence either. I just do not want them to take away my new laptop!

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[...]Will they be able to take this away even though I purchased it in March 2010 [...] I just do not want them to take away my new laptop!

 

This is a civil case. They can't take anything away.

 

The only "evidence" they have is an ip address that was gathered via a piece of software that employs a tehnique called deep packet inspection. This effectlvley and in very simple terms, intercepts data flowing between two points, and from that discovers the ip address. There are however, many explanations as to how an ip address can be incorrectly gathered.

 

This "evidence" has never been tested in a court and is extremley unlikely to be, for many reasons.

 

Don't panic

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Hi, got my letter from Gallant MacMillan 2 days ago about mos the annual 2010 have havent slept a wink since!!

They said i made it available for download 27/11/09, as like most of you the ip address is nothing like mine and the want £375!!

Is everyone is in agreement that if i sent a letter of denial it wont be taken any further?

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Has anyone had any correspondance from ACS lately regarding copyright holder Darker Enterprises?

 

I received a letter of claim from ACS in April in respect of movies that Darker Enterprises allegedly have the copyrights to. I sent a LOD and have heard nothing since. Seems I should've received a second letter from ACS ages ago.

 

I'm wondering if Darker Enterprises have dropped the case (I see from earlier posts that they're having problems renewing their shop licences).

Is anyone else in the same boat as me?

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Sample Letter of Denial

 

 

ACS:LAW

Andrew J Crossley

20 Hanover Sq,

London,

W1S 1JY

 

(insert date)

 

RE: Letter of Claim Dated (insert date) concerning “(insert file in question as mentioned in the letter)” (“The Work”)

 

Dear Sir,

 

I am writing in reply to your letter of claim dated (insert date) stating that my connection was used in an infringement of copyright, using peer to peer networks which allegedly occurred on the date (insert date) and concerns the work “(insert file in question as mentioned in the letter)” (“the work”).

 

You assert in your letter that the infringement was apparently traced to my internet connection. I note that I am not personally being accused of the infringement, as you have no evidence to this effect. Nevertheless, I categorically deny any offence under sections 16(1) (d) and 20 of the CDPA 1988. I have never possessed a copy of the work in any form, nor have I distributed it, nor have I authorised anyone else to distribute it using my internet connection. I note that section 16(2) of the act requires a person to either directly infringe copyright, or authorise someone else to do so. I have done neither, and you have not provided any evidence of my doing so. As such I cannot and will not sign the undertakings as provided by you.

 

As you seem to be perfectly aware, it is impossible to link an IP address to a particular person or computer without further detailed analysis, which requires a level of expertise I do not possess. Furthermore the delay in your sending of a letter of claim precludes any such analysis. In your letter you state that “it is unlikely that a simple denial (without further explanation) will change our view of the circumstances”, unfortunately I do not have the expertise to provide a detailed explanation. As such I can only conclude that I have been a victim of foul play.

 

 

Yours Faithfully

 

(Your name)

 

Hi

anyone send this ? let us know if this letter can halp us or what is answer from ACS Law

 

p.s. in my letter is they have my personal details from Be Un Limited but i dont have internet from this company i have from O2 , how its happen?

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I received a letter from ACS Law yesterday. I downloaded an album in 2009. I used utorrent to download it (like an idiot) The letter included lots of legel stuff, stuff I do not understand. The one thing I do know, is that my ip address is included in the letter as is the exact time and date that I downloaded the album. I have to pay £300 or it goes to court. What I am worried about is, if I sign the form and pay (I dont have a problem with paying), this will be an admission of guilt and it may open up the floodgates. I can see from reading through the posts that ACS Law seem to be a little on the unscrupulous side and will stop at nothing to make money. I dont know is this matters or not but I already had the original copy of the cd that was sealed but didnt want to break the seal just to rip the cd to my ipod. Stupid and misguided fool I am, I thought it made it ok for me to dl the album.Can anyone offer me any sound advice? :(

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hi all.

i note that one of the three persons mentioned in the ownership of evacuate the dancefloor is manuel rueter aka dj manian.

he has and is involved in many songs which will appear as singles but also as many compilation albums available on p2p websites.

many people will have come on here to see if acs is real and lets be honest you all will of downloaded the file or a relative will have and you want to see if you can get away with it.

the point i am making is that if someone pays asc law for lets say evacuate the dancefloor off either the album or a compilation album with that on, can this guy on the court order who has interest in another song off the same download then persue for liabilty for the same amount for another song, so if cascada album has 15 tracks on - next month can he issue another court order for his next track. then some people will pay through the nose 15times after downloading one album?

and if the letters and subsequent payments of fines provoke more music execs to pursue for each individual track then millions of people will be screwed as so many people do it on a daily basis.

None of the beliefs held by "Freemen on the land" have ever been supported by any judgments or verdicts in any criminal or civil court cases.

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hi all,

thanks for the advice, i got the letter from g&m saying i owe £375 for downloading the album mos the annual 2010. I did download the file however the date they have given is incorrect as it states on my p.c the correct date when i downloaded it. their date is a month out. what should i do? deny i downloaded this file on this date?

 

any answers would be much appreciated.

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Hi Guys, first time on here, I have just recived the letter from ASC:LAW yesterday. Its stating the fact Ive downloaded that casdada evacuate the dance floor song and is wanting £295!!!! This is a JOKE! I dont listen to that type of music Im into my Indie/Rock mixture!!! I spoke with o2 and asked them about the "Be unlimited" and they are O2's equipment provider or somthing???? Im not going to accpet somthing that Ive not done! we live in a block of flats it would not surpise me if my connection had been hacked or my ip has been spoofed as I hear its easy for a person who knows about this stuff to do? Im going to be seeing a solicitor sometime next week to get a bearing on what to do if anything as I feel its a [problem] to scare people out of money and I wont stand for IT!!!!!!!Any info you guys have would be great :)

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Don't write to them, they're not going to anything trust me. Its a [problem], they send thousands of letters out and they hope as many people as possible get scared and pay. There's also a few scaremongering comments left on here and I'm in no doubt that they work for the [problematic].

 

Even if they had solid proof that you downloaded the songs from your ip address, they can't prove which person in your household actually downloaded the file. Reminds me of the cops who pulled over a car for speeding and the driver and passengers all sat on the back seat before the police tapped on thier window. "I wasn't driving" LOL

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@TudorBlue and mos lawsuit!!

 

If you did download, or more accurately, make the "work" available to third parties via p2p networks, the sum of money claimed is dispraportionate to the potential loss of sales for the rights holder.

 

I would seek legal advice with a view to making a counter offer for an amount in the region of about £20.

 

Check out Michael Coyle at Lawdit Solicitors - they specialise in this area.

 

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I've contacted Sky who said that they did pass my information onto ACS Law, but that was on 15th April, whereas the stamp on the High Court of Justice Document is dated 17th February. That doesn't really add up?

 

ACS Law obtained a court order for Sky (and other ISPs) to provide the names and addresses of ip address holders on the 17th Feb. The ISPs had to provide this information within a specified time. It seems that Sky provided it on the 15th April.

 

I am not sure on the technicalities of the infrigement if it concerns individual tracks from a an album, for example; if you downloaded multiple tracks from an album, but not the track ACS refer to in the letter.

 

Regarding the time issue, I believe they make the file available for download for a long period time in order to "catch" more victims. For this reason, I'm sure the times and dates will vary for individuals. The "work" I was accused of making available[...] last year, is still available for download as of last week!

 

As I said previously, if you have infinged copyright, seek legal advice with a view to making a counter offer for an amount in the region of about £20. Check out Michael Coyle at Lawdit Solicitors - they specialise in this area.

 

Bear in mind though that NO ONE HAS BEEN TAKEN TO COURT. What evidence do they have that YOU as an indivdual made the "work" available to third parties or authorised anyone else to do so? NONE

 

Regards

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just wandering that it seems like they have sent atleast a thousand of these threats to people. is it even liable in a court to do such thing? also the fact that the internet is addressed to one person but anyone could have downloaded it, does it make the bill owner liable? ive dealt with solicitors once and they were quite professional. these lot seem like [problem] artists who've hired some whizzkid geek who knows a bit about computers. decided to target peoples ips willy nilly and seem to think that is concrete evidence demanding 37 times the amount of the actual price of the cd. also if they did decide to take someone to a small courts would it cost them a lot and also due to location would they take the nearest person to them?

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[...]also the fact that the internet is addressed to one person - EDIT - not a person, a device - but anyone could have downloaded it, does it make the bill owner liable? ive dealt with solicitors once and they were quite professional. these lot seem like [problem] artists who've hired some whizzkid geek who knows a bit about computers. decided to target peoples ips willy nilly and seem to think that is concrete evidence demanding 37 times the amount of the actual price of the cd. [...]

 

Ha ha - You've got it spot on mate!

 

However shaky their evidence and imoral their practices, it is in fact not a [problem] but a scheme that employes Civil Procedure Rules. Pre-action protocol and peoples' fear and ignorance as tools to extort money.

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i spoke to the the soliciters gallant mcmillan yesterday and they said they posted 7000 letters out

 

So if just 20% of people pay, 1400 x £375 = £525,000

 

Half a million for some creative letter writing!

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