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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I got sent the same letter today claiming i downloaded ministry of sound 2010 in december 2009 and am to pay £375.....Rang the solicitors who advised me that MOS used a program called Digiright which has traced the download back to IP address...which when checked isn't even my address...it shows somewhere in plymouth.....but was then advised IP addresses change. Funny thing is its highly unlikely i have downloaded this album as i hate dance music!! lol

Gonna seek legal advice as think £375 for one album is a bit steep!!

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If I didn't upload file and I got this letter. What do I do,ignore it, phone them or send them a letter.

 

If you didn't download/upload it, and this company has written to you to make a cliam under the code of practice for pre-action protocol in interlectual property rights disputes (like ACS Law) then you should as the defendant and as a minimum, reply with a letter denying the allegation and explaining why.

 

This is what I did in April. I recieved another letter after that to which I replied, again denying it. I have heard nothing since.

 

Without more details of the contents of these new letters from this new firm it is hard to comment.

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[...]Rang the solicitors who advised me that MOS used a program called Digiright which has traced the download back to IP address...[...]

 

Is this Digirights - the well known German IT company that ACS Law used to employ before they started using a two bit London company called NG3 Systems...before they stopped even naming their IT experts in their letters...

 

Or is it Digiright - a company based in the Costa Del Sol and equally dodgy looking?

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I don't think it works like that it's not the case of debbie does dallas x 2 a sequel is still only one film. In Jaws 2 there wern't 2 sharks or an extra film :)

 

Sounds like another cockup if you pardon the joke

 

I think he is saying it is for 2 films ie:- DDD1 and DDD2, not just DDD2

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Is this Digirights - the well known German IT company that ACS Law used to employ before they started using a two bit London company called NG3 Systems...before they stopped even naming their IT experts in their letters...

 

Or is it Digiright - a company based in the Costa Del Sol and equally dodgy looking?

 

 

solicitor said its well known company that have been used in the states, uk and germany. Pretty vague really didn't think solicitors sounded very proffessional over the phone...something didn't add up

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[...] just to add the ip address on letter is different to my own aswell.

 

It is normal for the ip address to be different. It will be a "dynamic address" which means that the Internet Provider allocate you a different ip address nearly every time you connect. The ip address quoted in the letter is the one that was allegedly being used at the time of the infringment.

 

Anyway, it is immaterial what the ip address is or was, as it only identifies an internet enabled device, not an individual. The device in this case is probably the wireless router that the Internet Provider allocated an ip address to - that address can be discovered and spoofed very easily as can the router be hacked and used by a 3rd party.

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Hi All - Big thanks to everyone who has posted here.

 

Got my first letter from ACS this morning and done all the usual emotions : frightened, shocked and increasingly angry. My letter is about evacuate the dance floor.

 

After reading other peoples experiences, will now calmly use the template for the Letter of Denial (LOD).

 

At least i know that i will get further threatening letters, but will start to enjoy the game that is ACS -although still have a small worry about paying this money !

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hi benk103 - Its a civil matter so no criminal record.

But even if you did do it, they need to prove it. Something that most people think they cannot do - they have not taken anyone to court yet i understand.

Have a read of this forum and then make up your own mind what to do.

Just take a few days to get your head around all the info - once you admit it, there is no way back.

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I just can't see past the idea though that if I do one of these Letters of Denial, then it turns out they can 'prove' it, that it's going to end up with a bigger fine. I can barely afford this as it is! On the other hand like other's have said, if you pay once chances are they might come back cap in hand again. Has anyone here actually paid them?

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technically each infringemnet is a case of its own so they could send you a letter in ralation to as many cases as they feel you've broken the copyright. From what i have read it seems that they are just chancers trying to scare people into paying out. I mean if they had all the proof, i cant believe that they would not just take you straight to court as you if found guilty would be liable for the costs.

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not sure on a point here, i was told thatthey had taken outa court order against sky to get the addresses of the ip users could they do this or would it not be covered by data protection act

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I too received a letter from Gallant Macmillan this morning demanding £375 for allegedly downloading Ministry of Sound - The Annual 2010 and went into blind panic. Checked my IP address and it isn't the same as the one they have quoted, however I have read that Sky uses dynamic IP adresses. Can you prosecute someone on the evidence of a dynamic IP address? Am going to Citizens Advice on Monday so will report their advice.

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Davvruss- The only way for them to get the account holder address from the IP is via a court order - they have done this "forcing" Sky to give out the names and address of the account holder.

I say "forcing" as Talk Talk refused to hand over the info- Sky and others just handed it over...

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I got my letter today i feel a lot better now after seeing im not the only one. I read that there is a template for a letter which i can use how do i go about downloading or seeing what to put in my letter thanx

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Got my letter this morning from ACS:LAW solicitors demanding £295 for apparently downloading "Cascada-Evacuate The Dancefloor" cd. I don't even like Cascada!! :( If any knows where to find a template letter to send to these **** bags would be much appreciated, or is it best to completley ignore them?

 

P.s found a good video on the subject YouTube - Davenport Lyons - threatening letters.

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Lawdit are your best bet for a solicitor they handle alot of these cases but remember solicitors are not cheap either when hiring them. Google them then go to their IP (intellectual property) section.

 

Remember on the internet mate don't give to much info away about your particular claim as they can use it against you, you should edit your post about your router / missing part of your name etc. ACS:LAW actively browse these forums and scrap together any minute piece of info on you, because as it stands all they know about you is your name and address.

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first post . just received a letter as well from gallant and macmillan for 375 saying we downloaded the ministry of sound album when we didnt.it also states an unbelievable time that we downloaded it too. what do i do?? i have read quite a bit and intend to send them a lod. please help this is outragous.

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