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    • I purchased the vehicle using finance through motonovo under a HP 60 months agreement. I have now amended the document ensuring all is in black. Unfortunately, this email has now been sent. However, I have not sent a letter to big motoring world. Also, I have taken the section of the firealarm issue. I am struggling to convert to PDF. I am not tech savy at all. My mistake was that the the salesman was very fussy on a sale. We went down a quiet road for a little test drive and not for a lengthy road test. The water issue was not present at this moment of time. However, it only became prevalent after driving away, after all docs signed. I did stated to Audi I wanted a diagnostic report. However, they carried out an Audicam which is footage of the issue. Audi have diagnosed the issue as a common issue where coupes/cabriolets accumulate water in the seals. However, I did state beforehand for no issue to be rectified due to me wanting to reject the vehicle. I am awaiting a report from Audi through email from the branch manager in relation to the issue. The issue so far is the water still being present in the sills. Audi tried to fix the issue however the problem is still prevalent. Regards 
    • First begging letter received from Overdales   ;Blah blah blah, our client's are going to win this blah blah blah we supplied all your documents under CPR   PS you can stop all this by paying £1200 less in a lump sum
    • Right,  so the court hasn't send out the Directions Questionnaires/N180s yet. PE's one is a false one, meant to intimidate you into thinking your defence was rubbish and they are confident with their claim. This is par for the course.  The PPCs do this regularly. However, PE have gone further and written that "a copy has also been filed with the court" which is a lie as the court haven't even sent out the papers yet. Keep a screenshot of MCOL, later on in your WS you can draw attention to their lying and abuse of court procedure. If you've got time on your hands, then complain to the BPA about one of their members lying.    
    • We need documents to be uploaded in PDF format. Uploading in Microsoft Word format discloses personal details relating to you which you should not be sharing. Click upload – to understand what to do. How did you pay for the vehicle? You start by saying that you should have walked away – yes you should. Not only because of the reputation of this company but also if the transaction isn't perfect you shouldn't get involved and you certainly shouldn't be taking the word of some used car dealer. Big fail! Why are some of your letter in black and some the in red? When you get some of the ideas in there – have you use a template from somewhere else? They aren't interested in a delay caused by some fire alarm or something. They certainly aren't interested either by the distress you are suffering. They have hundreds of customers who become victims of this kind of thing. All of those customers suffer distress. Big Motoring World don't seem to be very bothered. What are the faults which exist with the vehicle now? Is it just the splashing? Where is the splashing? What is it that is splashing?   Do I also understand that you purchased the vehicle without trying it at all and the first time you were in it and had splashing was after you had made the contract?
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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We bought a brand new leather suite for £2476 in December last year from SCS (with a £1000 deposit and the remainder on finance). In January we noticed the suite seemed to be turning a darker shade of brown on the headrest and arms. We went to SCS with pictures to ask them what could be done and they sent an upholsterer to establish if it was a manufacturers fault or not. His opinion was that it wasnt and that we should simply have the suite cleaned professionally, we mentioned that the suite had only been in our house for 3 weeks and a professional cleaner would cost a small fortune if we had to have it cleaned so often. A further visit to the store and a conversation with the manager who advised us to write a letter to SCS head office expressing our concern over the suite and its condition. They responded by referring to their upholsterers report saying there was little they could do. We are now at the end of our tether, lumbered with a suite that is difficult to clean and looks dirty again if you so much as look at it never mind sit on it. Is there anything you good people can suggest we can do in terms of a next step? I am considering writing to the finance company and complaining to them but not sure what to say!

And the lord said "come forth and i shall grant you eternal life" I came fifth and got a toaster!!!:D

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We bought a brand new leather suite for £2476 in December last year from SCS (with a £1000 deposit and the remainder on finance). In January we noticed the suite seemed to be turning a darker shade of brown on the headrest and arms. We went to SCS with pictures to ask them what could be done and they sent an upholsterer to establish if it was a manufacturers fault or not. His opinion was that it wasnt and that we should simply have the suite cleaned professionally, we mentioned that the suite had only been in our house for 3 weeks and a professional cleaner would cost a small fortune if we had to have it cleaned so often. A further visit to the store and a conversation with the manager who advised us to write a letter to SCS head office expressing our concern over the suite and its condition. They responded by referring to their upholsterers report saying there was little they could do. We are now at the end of our tether, lumbered with a suite that is difficult to clean and looks dirty again if you so much as look at it never mind sit on it. Is there anything you good people can suggest we can do in terms of a next step? I am considering writing to the finance company and complaining to them but not sure what to say!

 

My daughter bought a Corner Unit in December. You can see the progress here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/high-street-stores/193176-scs-wrongly-handed-damaged.html#post2088494

 

I'm just about to update it.

 

As their Upholsterer appears to be taking their side, I would be tempted to get an independant report. I know it will cost but if it proves to be in your favour you will be able to claim it back along with everything else you have paid. You could invite the finance company to arrange an inspection when reminding them that they are equally liable with the supplier.

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PUTTING IT IN WRITING & KEEPING COPIES IS A MUST FOR SUCCESS

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it take its material rather than leather ?

 

most material funiture are protected with products such as "Scotch Guard" from new to prevent such problems from soiling, and its not uncommom with imported furniture that this has not been done, check if it was advertised or on labels ( often on the bottom of the of the units ) which will state its been done , It must always state on the labels what fire protection has been used , Legal requirement for furniture sold in the UK , eg, complies with (British Standard 7176) should be the right one , but double check

 

As a lot of furniture sold in the UK by the major stores is made in China these days, the quality control is lacking, last year Watchdog did an exposure of furniture which had a banned substance being used in imported furniture, and the suffering it caused, it should also show on the Label the Country of origin, another angle is that you can question SCS just what checks they carry out to confirm the goods are as described EG, Scotch Guarded / Fire retardant treatment, to comply with "British Standards"

 

it is common for material to show darkening on the headrests and arms after a much longer period of time , simple cause is transfer of grease etc from Hair and hands, but not after such a short period, but it can happen

 

If it was a real Upholsterer ( there actually very few real ones in the UK modern furniture does not need them when made, ) would have done the simple check of labels etc and mentioned the transfer of grease etc, and would have mentioned the possible lack of "Scotch Guard" I spent the first 7 years of my working life as 1 , moved on to Electronics after a accident which stopped me working in the trade.

 

IF it clearly states its been Scotch Guarded etc ( or similar treament to protect against soiling ) then that should strengthen your claim,

 

link re fire and cig burns etc

Spotlight - Specifying furniture upholstery

 

attached PDF re F/R of furniture

fire retardant.pdf

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Hi Kiptower, its a leather suite in aniline and would only of received a little coating apparently. Do you happen to know of any proper independant upholsterers in the north west of england who i could use for an report? Also if anyone has any letter suggestions it would be most appreciated

And the lord said "come forth and i shall grant you eternal life" I came fifth and got a toaster!!!:D

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