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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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I have received a copy of a letter sent to the court by Capquest, as follows:-

 

We acknowledge receipt of the Application to Set Aside the Statutory Demand.

 

Upon reading the application and the evidence in support it appears that the evidence in support of the application shows that there are no grounds upon which the Statutory Demand should be Set Aside.

 

We do not consider that there are additional matters upon which we will be able to assist the Court at the hearing of the Application to Set Aside the Statutory Demand. In view of this, and with a view to saving costs which could fall upon the applicant, we ask that our attendance at Court on the hearing of the Application to Set Aside be excused.

 

We ask that in our absence an order is made dismissing the Application to Set Aside the Statutory Demand and fixing a date after which we, as the creditor, may proceed to present a petition for bankruptcy to the court. We will not seek any order for costs in relation to the application to set aside.

 

I do intend to attend the court hearing, but is this a usual response from Capquest?

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Not the usual one I have seen, no.

 

However, before you panic (and this is me saying this) you must remember that this is their opinion only. It is not for them to judge - that is what judges are for.

 

Now, are you absolutely sure Scotcall were acting for capquest and not someone else instead, such as the original creditor? Were capquest in contact with you before Scotcall?

All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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Hi Tiglet,

Thank you for your reply.

Capquest did contact me previously to Scotcall, and it states quite clearly on all the correspondence from Scotcall that their client is Capquest.

I have not received a copy of the CCA, the letters sent to Capquest stated that the account is in dispute and has not been resolved, the SD was sent in usual post and the entire debt is made up of charges, if all that fails and the Judge does not grant a set aside, then I shall immediately pay the £19.01 to reduce the amount outstanding to less than the £800 debt required for bankruptcy.

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It sounds to me as if you have a good case - maybe this is a change of tactics for capquest? If they were so sure of themselves, why are they not turning up?

All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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What a load of complete RUBBISH.....they are stating that there are no grounds to set aside.....with NO evidence to back it up....then go on to state they will issue a BR, and then ask NO COSTS.....they have the cheek and temerity to issue a demand and can't back it up....I would be fuming at this....Dibs...you will get a set aside, as I said to Tigs, show the judge how annoyed you are at the fact they are issuing a demand which in your opinion is using the Insolvency service as a tool for scaring people into paying disputed debts......give the judge the references to Warren and Boggis and kindly ask him to order Capquest to pay your costs for such a frivolous attempt which in your view is an abuse of the Insolvency Service !!!

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You won't need a skeleton argument.....in my opinion, if you get a user friendly judge, he will be pretty annoyed too.....I would also start complaining to TS and the OFT and tell the judge you are doing this....be firm but polite with the judge, get him/her on your side, say to him/her that you think it is appaling and ask for your costs....

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The letter also mentioned a statement sent to the court, as follows:

We enclose herewith a statement of ......., who has been working on the Application to set aside Statutory Demand within the Litigation team at Capquest Investments Limited.

I have faxed Capquest for a copy of the statement, not that I believe it will hold any extra information, but, I would still like to see it.

I also made complaints to FOS, OFT and TS, on receipt of the statutory demand, so will print copies for the Judges perusal.

Thanks again 42man.

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First of all, Hello & Welcome to the Litigation team at Capquest, perhaps you should read more threads on CAG and actually learn something.

 

CAG members who have received a statutory demand from Capquest and are attending Court for a set aside, may be interested in this part of Capquest's statement of defence:-

 

Image0022.jpg

 

I have seen mention of this on another thread, part of which is copied from gilly5001 below:-

 

"They also suggested that I didnt have my own defence merely a copy of one from this website and they had sent a photocopy of a defence posted on here. I again explained that whilst I had sought advice and help from here I understood what I had submitted. The judge replied that it is fine to get legal advice from the website!!

anyway, set aside awarded and costs !! yippee"

 

( Thanks to gilly5001)

 

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First of all, Hello & Welcome to the Litigation team at Capquest, perhaps you should read more threads on CAG and actually learn something.

 

CAG members who have received a statutory demand from Capquest and are attending Court for a set aside, may be interested in this part of Capquest's statement of defence:-

 

Image0022.jpg

 

I have seen mention of this on another thread, part of which is copied from gilly5001 below:-

 

"They also suggested that I didnt have my own defence merely a copy of one from this website and they had sent a photocopy of a defence posted on here. I again explained that whilst I had sought advice and help from here I understood what I had submitted. The judge replied that it is fine to get legal advice from the website!!

anyway, set aside awarded and costs !! yippee"

 

( Thanks to gilly5001)

 

Dibs

Interesting, so what if you use the inforamtion here?

 

actually i had a application for set aside recently and the response was that they believed that i have taken it from an internet forum:rolleyes:

 

The buffoons, alas this wasnt Capquest though but on a good note, i am just about to get my teeth into these people as i have a great case which looksl ike its gonna end up in court if they keep ignoring our written requests for information,plus its gonna have a cost order included but not at the LIP rate ;)

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So Capquest are resisting an application to set aside a SD but with no intention of attending the court to present the oposition. How fascinating!

 

Let's get a couple of things straight. The court will not give a damn that the material employed was garnered from information found on this website. That material is now sworn evidence for crissake! What the court will be interested in hearing about and what the plonker from Capquest neglected to advance in the witness statement in response when he was merrily copying urls off of this site, are the legal reasons why the application to set aside the SD should be refused.

 

If the reasons are not in the witness statement and they don't plan to show up at court either, how do Capquest imagine they will be successful I wonder?

 

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what the plonker from Capquest neglected to advance in the witness statement in response when he was merrily copying urls off of this site, are the legal reasons why the application to set aside the SD should be refused.

 

Be reasonable. Presenting the legal reasons would require a modicum of...well reasoning I suppose, as well as some understanding of the law and a little intelligence.

 

Poor Capquest. I suppose their argument probably sounded so clever to them at the time. Ignorance is bliss - well until they get the bill for the costs anyway :)

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Was the witness statement above signed ? Dibs we both know that you have done a lot of research outside of these forums....it makes not a jot of difference where your defence has come from.

 

Post 44 here - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/164223-capquest-stat-demand-bankruptcy-3.html

 

Post 15 here (you can show this one to the judge) - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/156199-sd-capquest-hearing-listed.html

 

Post 91 here (show this one to the judge)

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/103839-cca-1st-credit-connaught-5.html

 

Post 87 from here (show this one to the judge too)

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/156970-omg-connaught-first-credit-5.html

 

Post 25 from here you might like to look at

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/161411-off-court-within-week-2.html

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The legal reasons are in the statement, not particularly accurate ones, I just wanted to highlight the absurdity of Capquest stating that it is not a genuine defence as it's been "copied from the Consumer Action Group website".

The copy statement sent to me is unsigned. I do have another thread for this, but just wanted to bring it to the attention of people who feel intimidated by Capquest.

 

Capquest are refusing the set aside on three points:

1. They have denied receiving a request for a copy of the Agreement or statements, despite my having evidence to the contrary.

2. I used the credit card to make purchases, copy statements prove this.

3. I have copied my defence from CAG

 

I am requesting the set aside based on:

1. Not having copied my defence from CAG, but have taken advice from CAG and many other sources, including Debtline.

2. The whole balance allegedly outstanding is entirely made up of charges.

3. I sent a request for a copy of the CCA to Capquest's collection agents, that request was acknowledged with "Contact has been made with our client and I advise that we are unable to obtain a copy of the agreement".

 

I can produce evidence for each of my statements.

 

Dibs.

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Hi Dibs...without giving too much detail away, roughly when is your court attendance ?

It is important that you print out and take with you any specific case law you quote (as in your set aside application)...just in case the judge asks to refer to it.

You may not need, but better to have all the ammunition - just in case the judge is a bit difficult, as was mine !

 

The rest of your argument looks sound - simplistically, apart from the unlawful charges, it is a complete defence at law if no CCA has been produced.

 

Also, if not already done so, have a look at CPR as they won't have fully complied with the Practice Direction Protocols that cover Pre-Action Behaviour:

CPR - Rules & Practice Directions

then tab on Pre-Action Protocols then

Practice Direction protocols

and go to s4 - for me this just adds up to the 'abuse of process' and wasting court's time etc.

 

This, with breach of OFT Debt Collection guidleines adds up to vexatious actions and harassment, without substantiation on their part.

Hopefully the judge will simply get annoyed with them and allow your set aside.

 

And keep reminding yourself to ask politely for costs to be awarded if successful.

 

Finally, have you asked for a copy of their formal complaints procedure ? If not, do so, as they rarely provide anything. - more non-compliance etc.

 

Always sign off letters with 'I reserve the right to produce this as evidence in court'

 

Hopefully since your last comment, things have been ok for you.

 

Please post update.

And if the hearing is imminent, best of luck.

;)

BeanPole :)

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Hi Beanpole,

Thank you for all the information, it's really appreciated.

The court date is in the next fortnight. I have searched the net and read and re-read the forums, have even bought a debt advice book! I feel confident about my argument, but nervous at the thought of attending court, will be so glad to get it over with.

I found your thread extremely helpful, so a big thank you for that.

Dibs.

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Dibs - I was TERRIFIED at attending court - looking back now, I have absolutely no idea why - it was over in minutes and capquest did not even attend.

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All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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~Dibs

 

This is what i used in an application recently

 

 

g) The applicant refers the court to the judgment of Mr Justice Warren in the High Court in the case of Hammonds (a firm) v Pro-fit USA Ltd [2007] EWHC 1998 (Ch) at Para 27.

 

27. So far as disputed debts are concerned, the practice of the court is not to allow the insolvency regime to be used as a method of debt collection where there is a bona fide and substantial dispute as to the debt. Save in exceptional cases, the court will dismiss a petition based on such a debt (usually with an indemnity costs order against the petitioner).

 

j) In respect of judgment of Mr Justice Warren as set out above the applicant avers that there is a clear dispute in relation to this debt and furthermore the respondent has been made aware of the matters complained of and despite this a statutory demand was issued

 

so if you havent already, refer the judge to hammond and pro fit;)

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Tiglet, thank you for your support.

 

PT, thank you for the information on Hammond's, it sum's up my situation brilliantly. I have spent hours searching for anything and everything that supports my case, and that one snippet is perfect!

 

Dibs

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