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I have today sent off the prelim letter requesting a total of £2991.33 back in charges.

 

Not sure if this will help but all my previous letters and correspondence have been replied to very quickly so I thought this contact may come in useful to others.

Ian Shepherd

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Harry Weston Road

Binley

West Midlands

CV3 2TQ

 

One quick question with regards to threads. I started one on Sunday evening which is now two pages away on this forum. DO I need to start a new one with each development or just update my old one? (Yes, I am blonde!)

 

And another:- There has been mention of overdrafts having to be paid back when charges are claimed. Is this also the case with loans? I have a fairly large loan with HSBC which I have never missed a payment on, can they make me pay this money back if I succeed?

 

Huge thanks

 

Louise

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I'll stick to one thread then!

 

I'm not too bothered if HSBC closes my account as I've managed to open another one with Nat West as a stand by. My only real concern is if they request my loan back in full as I only took it out last year and there would be no way of paying it all back. I have made every payment on time and never missed one, does anyone know if they can force me to repay my loan back even if they close my account?

 

Many thanks

 

Louise

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Sorry to pester guys but this has left me wondering for ages and I'm sure somebody out there must be in the same situation as I am.

 

Q - There has been mention of overdrafts having to be paid back when charges are claimed. I also see that some people have had their settlement money taken to pay off their loans. I have a fairly large loan with HSBC which I have never missed a payment on, can they make me pay this money back if I succeed rather than them send me a big fat cheque?

 

Much Appreciated

 

Louise

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I am just having a look on the money claim form, (not that I have any reason to submit it yet) and where it asks for the defendants address details I am unsure which one to put there. Do I use the correspondence address which I have previously used, (Coventry) or do I use HSBC's head office details? Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

 

Louise

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Dies anyone have an idea of the time scale involved with HSCB parting with their cash? Are we talking weeks/months after settlement? Anyone out there actually won and received their money? Not that I'm being over confident or anything, just planning on when I can book a holiday courtesy of HSBC!

 

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I have just contacted HSBC this morning to check my balance with tele banking. Instead of giving me my balance I was transferred to their call centre and offered a loan to pay off my credit card, (small amount, under £200) my loan and my overdraft. When I declined this I was then asked if I would like to upgrade my current account to a Premier?? This costs £9.99 per month. They are throwing all they can at me. Do you think its because they are trying to be nice or because they will have more to claim back from me when they close my account!!! Anyhow, I told them to keep the lost, as soon as they pay my charges back I'm changing to my parachute account with NatWest who I have no doubt will charge just as much as HBSC!!

 

Also no response to my Prelim although they do have until Monday to reply. My first letter was dated 3rd July although they will not have received it until at least the 4th. Does anyone think I sould send the LBA two weeks from the 3rd or the 4th or allow 14 working days??

 

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Louise

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No offer as yet, (hoping and praying). Saw your post in another thread about your offer and whether or not to take it due to court cases been thrown out. Not sure what I would do if I received a similar offer to yours. Do you take it and run or get caught out and lose the cash due to a precedent been set by the higher court case! Dilema. On principle I would hold out for the full amount but thats easy for me to say now with no offer. Are you declining their offer Hedgehog and who did your offer come from? Was it Ian Shepherd as I know we sent our Prelims to the same guy? Good luck

 

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Just had a letter today from the ever competent Ian Shepherd who apologises for the delay in responding and tells me that they have ordered 6 years of statements for my account and credit card as I had not requested them. I received all these ages ago after requesting them initially. I have heard of this happening on other threads before and reckon its another stalling tactic. Shall I go ahead and send the LBA on Tuesday which is when the 14 days are up?

 

Has anyone actually received a 2nd lot of statements after receiving one of these letters?

 

Many thanks

 

Louise

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Well, as expected no response (sensible response) from the delightful Mr Shepherd to my prelim letter. I sent the LBA off Tuesday 18th July so shall sit tight now and wait and see what other stalling tactics they can come up with.

 

Louise

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Mr Shepherd has lived up to expectations and kindly delivered me a second batch of duplicate statements for the last six years on my account. I requested these yonks ago and received them already in June. They must be sat around in the office twiddling their thumbs! Has anyone else received these also? Surely they can easily afford to pay us anti HSBC's all our charges back as money is obviously no object with printing costs. Sorry Mr Posty but this time was not my fault!!! Searched through the lot and no offer of a refund. Bugger!

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Looks like I shall be heading down the mcol line also, no offer as yet, I know you received one hedgehog, was that before you sent the premlim? I think they are trying to call my bluff and hope I back down before court stages. No way, its my cash and I want it back.

 

I defo reckon there must be something in the duplicate statements, if not least the waste of money with the paper, they were all in individual envelopes, must have cost a fortune in postage! They obviously have too much money and therefor should pay mine back asap!

 

Hedgehog - Send recorded delivery, its only £1 and they still have to sign. I have not sent any of my letters by recorded or special, they have all gone 1st class and I have kept dated copies of the originals. Not wasting another penny on HSBC and my big fat chq from them will be going straight into my parachute account with NatWest!

 

Good luck everyone and hopefully my next post will be with regards to an offer!

 

Louise

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Please could someone help me with the interest on mcol. I promise I have read and re-read all the instructions and its going in one ear and out the other! My total claim is for £3111.00. I have calculated (using the excel spreadsheet) that the interest is £509.92. Does this sound right anyone? Also I have read on someone elses thread the following:

 

I claim interest under section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from 08/12/00-17/07/06: £xxx on the charges and £xxx on the interest, making a total of £xxxx.

 

How do I differentiate between the charges and the interest? I thought the interest was just one sum? Help????!!!!

 

Also when I submit my particulars of the claim do I add into the total I am claiming the £120 court fee's or just the total amount in charges + interest?

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated cos I now feel like I have a force field in my brain directing any useful information as far away as possible!!!

 

Thank you

 

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I think I have about managed the paragraph in the allowed amount of words but the only bit I'm stuck with is the paragraph below. I think this is the last part on the mcol paragraph, particulars of claim, not too sure where I got it from, must have borrowed it from someone elses thread!

 

I claim interest under section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from 08/12/00-17/07/06: £xxx on the charges and £xxx on the interest, making a total of £xxxx.

 

How do I know how much interest is on the charges and how much interest is on the interest??? Am I just showing my true colours and being totally blonde, is this not the right paragraph to put in there? Please help before I go crazy!!

 

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Just been having a look and can't seem to find the one you mean. There is the one I used for my shedule of charges which has the amount, date, days since offence and interest? Is this the one you mean as I tried using this before and it calculated just the total interest of £509.92 on a £3111.00 claim. I know i sound a bit slow but I promise I'm not usually! Is there a link of directions for dummies someone could provide

 

Humble thanks

 

Louise

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So I take my total 8% interest of £508.57 and then multiply it by 0.00022?? Then add these two figures together? SOmeone please clarify I think I'm going mad, feels like been in schools maths exams all over again!!

 

£508.57 x 0.00022 comes out something like 0.1118854 - what the hell is this?? 11pence?

 

Someone save me from the straight jacket!

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Thanks PRC1

 

Just to clarify and call me **£%"^!&! if you like for sounding so slow off the mark...

 

My total charges are for £3161.00. This amount includes no interest at all. The 8% interest on this which the excel sheet worked out for me is £508.57 making a total of £3669.57. So far I have not requested any interest back in my Prelim or LBA. Its only now that I am filing with mcol that I have had to try and work this out. What do I do with the 70pence per day, add it onto £3669.57 as a one off or 70pence per day for the last six years??

 

Huge apologies and no offence to any blondes out there but I think a "nice and easy chestnut" is called for!

 

Louise

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