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Lisa, I have had second thoughts about whether you need to complete the paperwork you ahve been sent. I have asked someone with more experience to look in on you. :)

Ok thank you i have read it again but i dont understand what it means

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Looks like its been blanket stayed at Courts own notion,unless the defendants asked for this when they sent in their acknowledgement.

The form that you have would usually be capable of being used to apply for Judgement.

You will ust have to await further directions.

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Looks like its been blanket stayed at Courts own notion,unless the defendants asked for this when they sent in their acknowledgement.

The form that you have would usually be capable of being used to apply for Judgement.

You will ust have to await further directions.

Thank you will just sit back and see what happens

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Ah, lisa - that was the deadline date for the banks to lodge their appeal - when the Noble Lords will come up with a judgement is anybody's guess - but hopefully it'll be before the summer recess ....:).

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Ah, lisa - that was the deadline date for the banks to lodge their appeal - when the Noble Lords will come up with a judgement is anybody's guess - but hopefully it'll be before the summer recess ....:).

ph ok thank you

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What's ph ,Lisa ? :confused::)

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Hello PD , lovely to see you posting on the site again ....... :cool:

 

you're probably right , but I thought it might be short for something :rolleyes: - if it had been bh I wouldn't have needed to ask ......LOL! :D

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You are most welcome , Ma'am :):)

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Hi all

 

Well an update dad got a 2 letters from wescot first one came in the form of a TELEMESSAGE.

saying: this account with metropolitan collection services has now been passed to wescot credit services, a specialist debt collection agency, with instructions to recover the amount outstanding.

we are now commencing activity on this account.

YOU SHOULD CONTACT US on 08709023072 to arrange to repay this debt before you receive our formal debt notification letter which is now in the process of being issued.

We are not aware of any genuine reason why this debt should not be paid and will continue with debt collection activity until notified otherwise.

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then the following day the debt notification letter saying : if you ignore the instructions and fail to take action by 3 june 2009 this may result in one of the following:

1. legal proceedingd been automatically issued against u in the county court/sheriff courts which could result in\; a county court judgement or decree againt u

your possessions being seized

your debt increasing because of court costs

2. a debt collectors being instructed to visit your home and collect the debt personally

you can prevent further action by contacting your priority number 0870 902 0587

 

PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!

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Hi all

Found this letter today was wondering whether its ok to send to Wescot regarding dads account

 

Dear Sirs

 

My account with HSBC Bank Plc

Account number ************** Outstanding Balance £304.96

 

 

I note with interest you have been instructed by your client to recover the outstanding balance on the above account and the fact you now formally demand immediate payment of £304.96 on behalf of your client following their own failed attempts to ignore the legal process and in my opinion extract money with menaces.

 

I draw your attention to my own county court claim number 9S********* which has now been stayed subject to your clients’ legal representative, DG Solicitors application to the court to await the outcome of the Commercial Court proceedings between the OFT and the Defendant (and seven others) comprised in Claim No. 2007 Folio 1186. I suggest you do the same, I’m sure as HSBC’s Debt Recovery Specialists you will be well aware of this situation by now.

 

I confirm any further costs you incur in this matter will be your own fault for being too stupid to read my correspondence and take heed of the current legal situation that exists and therefore will be at your own liability.

 

I further confirm if my account is referred to debt collection agents who try to act without the required legal backing and attempt to call on me collect payment I will contact the police to have them removed from my premises and commence harassment proceedings against them, you and your client.

 

Yours sincerely

 

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If you are prepared to follow up on the statement in the last paragraph, then yes. However, you should not make threats you are not prepared to follow through :)

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If you are prepared to follow up on the statement in the last paragraph, then yes. However, you should not make threats you are not prepared to follow through :)

Hi CB

 

Thanks for the advice but do u think letter would be ok if i deleted the last paragraph

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You might want to wait for others to comment, Lisa.

 

YOu say you found the letter on another thread, could you point me in the direction of that thread so I can see if this actually was sent or perhaps just an OP venting frustration. :)

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Hi Lisa, I see that letter was penned by Castlebest so yes, go ahead and send it... all of it, no need to remove the last paragraph:D

 

However, there was also another letter a bit further down penned by Scarlet Pimpernel, at least you have a choice. It also mentions the unlawful penalties so you get your point home.

 

 

 

original quote by Scarlet Pimpernel - post 6

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/show-post/post-1313530.html

 

 

Dear Sirs,

 

 

Thank you for your letter dated xxxx. I do not acknowledge any debt to you or any company you claim to represent. All communication in this matter must be in writing.

 

I am surprised, not least because you are part of the same company, that your ‘client’ did not let you know that this account is disputed because it consists partly of unfair and/or unlawful penalty charges. Although I have raised a formal complaint and claim against your client, they have refused to deal with it until the forthcoming legal action brought against them and others by the Office of Fair Trading is heard. You will not need to be reminded that the Office of Fair Trading guidelines on Debt Collection states that continuing collection activity whilst a dispute is unresolved is an ‘unfair practice’.

 

In the circumstances I regret that I am unable to assist you further unless your client is willing to resolve the dispute.

 

Take notice that any legal action will be robustly defended and a counterclaim made; I look forward to placing evidence of your client’s attempts at unjust enrichment before a judge. Any further breaches of the OFT guidelines will be reported to the appropriate enforcement authorities.

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Hi Lisa, I see that letter was penned by Castlebest so yes, go ahead and send it... all of it, no need to remove the last paragraph:D

 

However, there was also another letter a bit further down penned by Scarlet Pimpernel, at least you have a choice. It also mentions the unlawful penalties so you get your point home.

 

Hi CB

 

THank you very much i will get that in the post tomorrow

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Hi lisa , welcome back :)

 

What stage is your claim at please ? did you get it into court 'stayed' ?

 

Let's know and we can point you in the right direction .. do not despair ..all is not lost .... :D

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