He can only do this if he has already been inside your house, and/or if it is a vehicle or goods outside, he has already seized/levied upon the goods. You are right, the maximum a bailiff collecting council tax can charge WITHOUT MAKING A LEVY is £42.50 for the two visits. Anything else is fraudulent because it isn't provided for in the regulations see schedule 5 here: The Council Tax and Non-Domestic Rating (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2006

Try Oh Boy, he should know

Fair point, I know it's a bit of a grey area, but I did think that somewhere to eat was distinct from somewhere to sit and relax in an empty room I still think that.

That's really a question for the clever folks in the debt section, but from what I understand if they can't produce the original CCA or the CCA is substantially incorrect they are stuffed.

Can you contact the person they do belong to?

Is this your residence? and did this person enter your residence?

wally I hope you didn't think me abrupt earlier, I was in the car answering your posts and the traffic wardens disturbed me - had to drive off a bit sharpish!

Don't be surprised at the level of fees for pcn's, they are horrific. I agree with ambershadow, this has gone on too far and you now need help from someone as knowledgeable and experienced as tomtubby.

I'd say you need tomtubby to advise you, sorry I can't be more help myself.

Start by posting when you incurred the fine, what paperwork you received and the date you paid the fine, who you paid the fine to, how you paid it and what evidence you have of that payment.

Not really, unless you've got witnesses. The fact is you let him in.

yes, tell her to make them an affordable offer, and better still go back to the court (if there's been a ccj) and get a more affordable payment arrangement ordered. Ell-enn is the one to hear from on this I think.

No certificate? Well then, there is your explanation

Don't inform anyone, just pay the council direct online.

Which is why you should never pay the bailiffs. Because that might very well mean that the levy took place lawfullly and that all their fees if lawfully applied must be paid before the liability order can be satisfied.

What the council say will be based upon what Newlyns told them. You can write to Newlyns and ask them for a screenshot of your account with them. The significant detail is the date of the supposed levy, and what was levied, and the name of the bailiff attending. If that is how mail normally gets posted then you can't complain about that as far as I can see. They can levy upon a vehicle, but it must be YOUR vehicle and it must be before you satisfied the liability order in full, that is why the detail and the date of the levy is so important. No, you would simply be told that it was a civil matter ( which it isn't) and they would try and fob you off (which they shouldn't but they do). The first thing to do is challenge the fees in writing, sending an email copy to the council tax department, the head of the council tax dept, your councillor, and your MP. Explain carefully as if to a child why a levy could not have taken place, do not rant, be polite but firm, use a template letter.

Bailiff takes their money out first.

Wow! They are dangerous LOL What about global warming

I think it means that you can now speak to the court and try to get the court to order an affordable rate of payment.

Extracted from Council Tax (enforcement and administration) Regulations 1992 Act Distress 45.—(3) If, before any goods are seized, the appropriate amount (including charges arising up to the time of the payment or tender) is paid or tendered to the authority, the authority shall accept the amount and the levy shall not be proceeded with. This means the Liability Order must be satisfied BEFORE any levy takes place, and the sum paid directly to the council, because bailiffs will remove fees from any sum paid to them. That will mean if you paid that sum to the bailiff, then the liability order will not have been satisfied. (4) Where an authority has seized goods of the debtor in pursuance of the distress, but before sale of those goods the appropriate amount (including charges arising up to the time of the payment or tender) is paid or tendered to the authority, the authority shall accept the amount, the sale shall not be proceeded with and the goods shall be made available for collection by the debtor. Once a levy has been made then to satisfy the liability order you must pay the council AND the bailiffs lawful fees up to that point.

And it's worth over 6 Billion pounds a year. Which explains quite a bit doesn't it..........

Peaceful Entry is exactly what it says - peaceful, no force, no damage.

Keep the back door locked, because then the dogs are not at risk. Although the bailiffs are entitled to climb over the walls or even put a ladder up against your house, they can't complain if a dog treats them like a burglar - because the poor doggies can't read!

You won the day, hurray! maybe tomtubby did manage to speak to her contact at sherforce? or maybe your letters have done the trick, not everyone in the bailiff business is dishonest, some are just ordinary folk doing a job.

That depends on whether you've satisfied the liability order yet. But you have a bigger problem, when the bailiff levied, lawfully, upon your car, it ceased to be your car. You disposed of the bailiffs property, so I'd get evidence of its miniscule value and be prepared for the bailiff's next move. I'd park any vehicle well away from your house.