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Hi I have gone through the three stages with Lloyds Tsb about claiming my charges back. I have recived a letter today after sending my 3rd letter to them asking for my money back and the letter basicly says tough Sh*t you aint getting your money back how do I go about this? Do I threten them with court or was the 3rd letter you have to send thretened them with court. can any one help me as from news paper etc that there is four letters.

 

if any one can help please message me

 

kind reguards

 

sophie routledge

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hi sophie, i have just recieved the same sort of letter to from lloyds, they basically said that there charges are fair and that they wouldnt cancel my charges.... is this the same as what you recieved....

if any1 can help with what i do next and what my response to this should be, please pm me with some info as im at a dead end with what to do.

many thanks

claire

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yes that is the exact letter that I have just recived. I dont know weather to go straight on to the court letter as the said they aint going to cancel. the letter also says I have everything explained about charges and that when i joind the bank which i never got a soddin thing told to me. the reason i am in debt is becuase i hurt my back in january and i had explained t them i may not be able to pay bills this that and the other then i started getting charges through and when your a student on minimum wadge your not getting alot so in the past 4 month they have taken over £600 off me and I cant find away to pay it back.

 

PLEASE IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO NEXT PLEASE TELL ME

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Hi, I received this letter last week, and to day I have sent a third letter giving them two weeks to pay up or I will automatically get a court date, You have to proced. If you read some of the cases it takes at least to this step of court before they pay up. They want you to give up at this stage. This is only a standard letter. I am worried but its my money.

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yes that is the exact letter that I have just recived. I dont know weather to go straight on to the court letter as the said they aint going to cancel. the letter also says I have everything explained about charges and that when i joind the bank which i never got a soddin thing told to me. the reason i am in debt is becuase i hurt my back in january and i had explained t them i may not be able to pay bills this that and the other then i started getting charges through and when your a student on minimum wadge your not getting alot so in the past 4 month they have taken over £600 off me and I cant find away to pay it back.

 

PLEASE IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO NEXT PLEASE TELL ME

 

 

Open another bank account and get your money paid into the new one. I have also had to make drastic changes to my finances. The bank were taking hundreds of pounds a month. I spoke to Citizen Advice.

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I had sent the 3rd letter off on monday saying they have 14 days to give my money back but thats when i recived this letter. do you think I should wait till the 14 days are up to take any mor action? please explain to me how you have gone about it im so confused

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hi sophie, i have just recieved the same sort of letter to from lloyds, they basically said that there charges are fair and that they wouldnt cancel my charges.... is this the same as what you recieved....

if any1 can help with what i do next and what my response to this should be, please pm me with some info as im at a dead end with what to do.

many thanks

claire

 

 

Have a look around the site, I downloaded a copy of the standard letters to send, The next one is the threat of court.... Go for it what have you got to loose.;)

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It is okay for banks to charge but not to profit from it, as they will not disclose the actual amount - and it is obviously not as much as they carge - they have to return it all.

If a burglar told you he was going to break in to your house, would that make it ok?

 

The next stage is court.

But, I sent the letter on post 68 at this stage ......

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/26339-littlesally-natwest-3.html

 

If you use it, change a few things as it was for Natwest.

You will be ok, it's a bit of a staring game, sit it out, they will cave in.

 

Sally x

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I had sent the 3rd letter off on monday saying they have 14 days to give my money back but thats when i recived this letter. do you think I should wait till the 14 days are up to take any mor action? please explain to me how you have gone about it im so confused

 

May be they just crossed in the post. Wait the 14 days then do the court thing. Well that what i'm going to do. I have only just posted my third letter today.. Very scarry.:o

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I have two bank account im with the royal bank of scotland as well been with them since i was little but never really used it, but i have had everything changed over to the royal bank now. they are absolutly lovly to me, call me if i have n e thing comin out and I will be a few pounds over and there charges are more realistic no matter what the problem is you get charged £10 and what interest you owe not 90 odd quid for a returnd d/d

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Hi I have gone through the three stages with Lloyds Tsb about claiming my charges back. I have recived a letter today after sending my 3rd letter to them asking for my money back and the letter basicly says tough Sh*t you aint getting your money back how do I go about this? Do I threten them with court or was the 3rd letter you have to send thretened them with court. can any one help me as from news paper etc that there is four letters.

 

if any one can help please message me

 

kind reguards

 

sophie routledge

 

I have just had letter offering me £750 on £2500 claim. They say this ia their final offer.Do I take to court for balance?

Do I notify them of my intenetion or do I just go ahead?

Not very good at computers and can't find way of introducing myself on forum.

Stupid or What?''''

Patsy:wink:

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I have just had letter offering me £750 on £2500 claim. They say this ia their final offer.Do I take to court for balance?

Do I notify them of my intenetion or do I just go ahead?

Not very good at computers and can't find way of introducing myself on forum.

Stupid or What?''''

Patsy:wink:

 

 

As far as I've read on this site, there is a letter in replay, to decline the offer and proceed with court action, at this point they will send full amount.

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Patmay,

Scroll up to where it says "welcome patmay", to the left there is "welcome to our forum" click there, then scroll down. Near the bottom there is a box on the left saying "new thread". Click there and off you go.

 

Hope it works Sophie

 

It's a pity the chatroom is still closed as that place can really help with any doubts and fears you have.

Also good for just unwinding and having fun.

Still hopefully it won't be long.

 

It's basically a waiting game, seeing who can out stare the other - don't be the one to look away.

Many people do at this stage and give up.

 

Make sure you stick with the winners and you will be one!

 

 

 

Sally x

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hi fellow cag members, this is my first post. i have just started a claim online with the court service. im taking lloyds to court for £1654. ive had the three letters thing and got the basic ;tough;reply. from lloyds. it really is easy to make a claim online with the court service. now its a waitng game to see what happens when lloyds get the claim from them tomorrow. apparently lloyds will wait till the day before the hearing to cough up. i cant wait!!!!

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