glav v northern bank

[glav]

Hi all!

 

Sent SAR to Northern Bank today recorded delivery, am looking forward to receiving my information.

 

glav:)

[steven4064]

Hi glav

 

Keep us posted and all teh best

 

Steven

[glav]

Update folks, received SAR information on Thursday, that was quick, they only received request on 7 May. Now i am horrified to discover that my charges amount to almost £6K, I knew it would be a significant amount but didn't think it would be that much. Now as I live in Northern Ireland and the small claims limit is £2k, I need advice big time. Do I ask for the whole amount initially and then if I have to lodge court claim split it, or do I split it from the start? Help!!!

 

glav:confused:

[noomill060]

Does the £6k include the interest they charged you on the charges, or is it just the charges on their own?

[noomill060]

In answer to your question, you could split the claim into handy £2000 chunks, but you must see each £2000 claim through to completion and settlement before starting the next one.

 

Dont start three £2000 claims all at the same time or the second and third will be chucked out as an abuse of process.

 

**IGNORE THIS INFO-NI COURTS VIEW THIS AS AN ABUSE OF PROCESS- ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE DISADVANTAGED BY THE NI SYSTEM**

[glav]

thanks noomill, haven't included interest at all at this stage, would be happy enough just to add 8% statutory interest at claim time. Will have to spend some time doing spreadsheets to divide the years up into tidy chunks.

 

glav:)

[steven4064]

I live in Northern Ireland and the small claims limit is £2k

 

Does NI have the equivalent of Fast Track and Multi Track? If they do, you might want to consider going that route with one claim.

 

Steven

 

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[glav]

Steven

 

For a claim over £2k, you must issue a civil bill, dont' know a lot about this, have some reading to do, but do know that you can't do it yourself and need legal representation.

 

glav:)

[steven4064]

Just a thought. Sorry cna't be of more help.

 

Steven

 

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[glav]

Hi all

 

Quick update, sent prelim letter to northern bank on 1 June recorded delivery. Having read around this site and threads from others who have also claimed from NB, their typical response is to write back saying they will reply within 20 working days. This is within timescales for prelim and LBA so I have asked for full amount initially (£6k) and will consider legal route depending on what response I get.

 

glav:)

[nishields]

Hi Glav,

 

Not sure if you followed my thread after your question on the response time but NB were pretty quick to offer a settlement to my work colleague that suited him, so best of luck!

[glav]

Nishields, thanks for the words of encouragement. I suppose I hope that they will settle quickly and I can avoid the dilemma of whether to slpit claim or consider other options.

 

glav:)

[johnspeehs]

hi glav

splitting claims is not an option in northern ireland, the courts view it as an abuse of the sc system and the banks know this . they wont pay out on a second claim now.

regards john.

[glav]

Hi John

 

I am becoming aware of this as I have been doing a lot of reading. Given the amount of money at stake, I will seriously consider filing a civil bill, I am aware of people who have successfully done this themselves without using legal representation.

 

glav:)

[glav]

Well, as predicted, letter back from Northern Bank today saying my "complaint" is being investigated and I will have a response within 20 working days.

 

glav:)

[will77]

take your complaint to the financial ombudsman..... no costs involved an you will get all of your money back

[glav]

Thanks Will, another option to consider.

 

glav:)

[glav]

Hi all

 

Received response from NB today so that was pretty quick. They have made me an offer of £3200, this is just short of 50% of my claim. I am now going to send LBA and combine rejection of their offer, any thoughts on how I could word this? I would be prepared to settle for no less than 95%, but do I show my hand just yet? Any advice greatly appreciated. I have just won with hubby's MBNA account and got letter of full settlement today from Capital 1 so am on a roll and will go the whole way with this one if I have to, too much money at stake.

 

glav

[nishields]

Hi Glav,

 

Sounds all too familiar..... If you're willing to accept 95% for a quick and easy settlement, my only advice would be to ask for it! They'll save 5% of £6k or £300 plus the fees and interest so any savings are a plus to the bank against a full payout. letter i used to get settlement for work colleague was doctored a bit from money saving expert and readings on here but went as follows:

 

Dear Sir or Madam,

Re. Account number: **********

We refer to default charges applied to our account amounting to £2305.63, which we have requested you pay back.

We wrote to you on 01.05.07, making the original request for a payment in settlement of our claim. As we do not consider your offer of £950 in settlement of our claim satisfactory, we are writing to inform you we intend to claim the full amount claimed together with interest up to the date of judgment and court fees in the proceedings through the county court.

This is based on the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations, as we believe these default charges are unfair and not proportionate to your costs, and therefore the NI Small claims court will rule in our favour.

We have attached a full schedule of the charges and interest with this document.

 

Without prejudice

The charges and interest we have claimed above total £2305.63 However, if you are prepared to pay to us £1750.00 within 14 days of the date of this letter (and, for such purpose, time shall be of the essence), we are prepared to accept this lower figure in full and final settlement of our claim and interest.

We look forward for a full response to this letter within 14 days, otherwise we will commence court proceedings to reclaim our money.

This letter got a result, good luck whatever you choose!

[bally35]

Glav , was it the Abbey in Coleriane who mucked yp the payment in to your account with hubbys MBNA payment

[glav]

Bally

 

No it was Natwest

 

glav

[bally35]

doh

[glav]

Well, LBA hand delivered to NB post box this morning, clearly rejecting settlement offer and giving Mrs Manager another14 days and then it's off to court I go. I did say that I was not prepared to meet with her as our relationship had broken down to a point where she closed account at the end of April, but did say that in an effort to negotiate and avoid wasting court's valuable time!!, I was prepared to accept 95% of claim. Also pointed out that if I filed in court I would then be entitled to claim stat interest and court fees, will be interesting to hear what she comes back with.

 

glav:-)

[oneintheneck]

I have had a offer from the Northern of half my claim I am sending the next letter asking for the full amount or court action will be taken. The bank would not be offering this money if it thought it was in the right would it?

[nishields]

any joy Glav? have you went quiet for good reason?????