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LTSB can't supply a true copy of the original agreement!

 

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So, i'm sending this letter on Tuesday! I've spent hours writing this! So would appreciate ANY comments/changes b4 letter is sent on Tuesday (27/02/2007)!

 

***BEGIN***

Mr xxxxxxxxxx,

xxxxxxxxxxxxx,

xxxxxxxxxxxxx,

xxxxxxxxxx,

xxxxxxx.

 

Lloyds TSB,

Consumer Debt Recovery,

Queens Road Quadrant,

Brighton,

BX1 3XJ.

 

BLS Collections (Trading name of Lloyds TSB),

PO Box 467E,

Oxford,

OX4 1WA.

 

BLS Collections Reference: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

xx February 2007

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

I refer to your letters dated 20/02/2007, addressing my agreement request from

BLS Collections and from Lloyds TSB returning the prescribed fee for such,

both of which were received on 22/02/2007.

It is the belief of BLS Collections that, "The bank is only obliged to keep some

documents for six years. The onus is on the client to keep such documents."

Whilst this maybe partially correct, it is the bank's absolute legal obligation to

comply with The Consumer Credit Act 1974 and supply a true copy of an original

agreement(/s) in full within the prescribed time limits, as requested.

 

The Consumer Credit Act 1974: Section 77 (4) If the creditor under an

agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)--- (a) He is not entitled, while a

default continues, to enforce the agreement; and (b) if the default continues

for one month he commits an offence.

The Consumer Credit Act 1974: Section 78 (6) If the creditor under an

agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)--- (a) He is not entitled, while a

default continues, to enforce the agreement; and (b) if the default continues

for one month he commits an offence.

 

Excerpt from a secondarily provided OFT complaint response:

"In circumstances like this we would view it is as unfair practice under

section 25 (2) (d) of the Act and relevant to licence fitness if a trader

failed to investigate and/or provide details as appropriate when a debt

is queried or disputed".

 

I am now informing you that I have cancelled the standing order payment from

my building society today and that my request as detailed above is not only in

default, but that an offence will have been committed on 02/03/2007. And that

it is now my intention to take detailed legal advise as for the purpose of

recovering all monies paid to you, and I am now aware that I am able to take

legal action against you in order to recover unlawful penalty charges

regardless of their age and within The Limitation Act 1980 including but

not limited to Section 32(1)(b) in as much that penalty charges were unlawful

but had been concealed as such by the bank.

 

 

 

I urge you to read the whole of this letter very carefully. As, as of today, the

xth February 2007, I no longer acknowledge any debt to Lloyds TSB. In fact,

in the near future, should you fail to address my concerns herein I will have

no option but to take legal action as detailed in the last previous paragraph.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

 

 

 

Mr XXXX XXXXXX.

 

***END***

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Yeha..! I'm trying to run b4 I can walk, and jump b4 I can run...!

3 months ago I would have hidden in bedroom for a month even tho i'm 41, 6'2" & 15 stone!!!

 

Want it all, but should play the waiting game like they do!

 

02/03/2007 is the date that they commit the offence, as per the exact letter of the law, 12 days after date served and then a calender month after for the offence.

 

Got 3 going now!

LTSB cannot supply. (Cancelled standing order payment)

Lowell Financial (Capital One) Supplied wrong details

MINT (RBS Advanta) NEW & AWAITING REPLY

 

Knowledge is power!

 

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Hi your letter refers to both section 77 and 78 of the CCA but I was under the impression that s77 deals with fixed sum credit (loans) whilst s78 deals with fluctuating balance type facilities (credit cards) so suspect you should be referring to one or the other but not both ?

 

I plan to use s78 to get some defaults removed from my credit file but I personally dont agree with people trying to welch on their debts using s77/s78. Reclaiming unlawful and unfair charges is one thing but if you know this facility / debt is yours then you shouldnt walk away from it - its not morally right. Remember too that this debt will still exist although they cant enforce under currenty laws - it may be a longshot but what would happen if you dont pay this for 10 years then the government change the law and decide it can be enforced (and there is a much higher amount outstanding) ?

 

 

It's a combined debt from an old loan and old overdraft, hence both sections. I do agree with what you say about welching but the complete amount still outstanding is 100% charges that I can't claim back so am going down this route instead.

 

 

Regards, Dave.

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After my high and mighty attitude in post 5, RBS have now responded to my S78 to advise that they cannot provide a copy of the agreement and "the current balance of 2.5k has been discharged and is no longer obligatory". This wasnt what I had set out to do (was originally looking for default removal).

 

That's absolutely fantastic news! :):D:)

 

Don't forget to keep that peice of paperwork..... forever!

 

Good luck, Dave.

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You can start cartwheeling now Dave.... :D This is exactly what happened with one of mine... no payments for 2 months now.... yippee !!!!

 

I'm cartwheeling!!! Trust me! :cool:

 

I've just clicked your scales to. :)

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Bit too late for me for this, my problems stem from the mid/late '90s. Only just started to get things going this year with the help of this excellent site and the excellent people here! From what i've read, going back past the 6 years can be tricky and I can't afford that...

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Remember this...?

 

BLS-NoAgreement.jpg

 

 

 

Well today they seem to have forgotten about it! And sent this....!

 

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Anyone notice how they are going to have to consider making contact by telephone!!!

 

I'll put a reply up before I send it.. Better go and have a careful think about it now! ;-)

 

:p

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Seems very polite to me considering the tone of the letters back in December when they increased my repayments by 300% without consultation! Followed by the arrears letters when I wouldn't give in to them!!!

 

I'm thinking I should invite them for tea so I can give their heavy a copy of the NO AGREEMENT LETTER...?! :lol:

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They've admitted there's no agreement/s but they're still pursuing the outstanding amount... :o

 

I'll be posting this letter to them on Tuesday, would appreciate comments and possible changes to letter please... Here goes.......

 

Mr,

 

Ashton Under Lyne,

Lanc's,

.

 

BLS Collections,

PO Box 467E,

Oxford,

OX4 1WA.

 

Reference: xXxXxXxX

 

27th March 2007

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

I write in response to your letter dated 16th March 2007.

 

You will have on file that many weeks ago you attempted to increase payments on my

account by over 300% without consultation, and that my response to this was a request

to see a copy of the original agreement under the Consumer Credit Act. Your records

should also show that due to the age of the account that you were unable to fulfill this

request which was accompanied with the maximum prescribed fee for such request.

As I have proof that you cashed this payment you become legally obliged to the

timescales and provisions that are set out in the Act.

 

I advise you that on 8th March 2007 you committed the offence laid down in

Section 77(4)(b), and that as per Section 77(4)(a), you are not legally entitled

to enforce the agreement.

 

The Consumer Credit Act 1974:

S.77(4) If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection(1)

(a) he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement;

and

(b) if the default continues for one month he commits an offence.

 

It is also my belief that your continued pursuance of this matter also constitutes an

offence under Section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970.

 

It has also come to my attention that as you are unable to supply any documentation

that you will also be in breach of the Data Protection Act, and as such you should no

longer be proccessing any data in relation to me.

 

I now have the option of reporting you to the Office of Fair Trading and Trading Standards

in relation to these matters. However, prior to doing this I am giving you the opportunity to

suggest an acceptable conclusion to us both in this matter. Please be advised that if you

follow up to this letter with further threat/s that I will not hesitate to take matters further

and as suggested and without further notification.

 

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

 

 

Mr. Diskmandave.

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I had a letter done last night but i've seriously got the lurgi this morning, full blown 'flu', so not feeling my best right now!

 

A few medicinal vodkas, and bed before 3am and i'll be right...!!!

 

Dave.

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As someone searching for help/advice on fighting low life DCa's your posts on here have really helped lift my spirits.

 

Thank you

 

jetbags, i'm so pleased that we've helped to pick U up!

:D

 

If you have a specific problem, you should start your own thread so that we can try and help you, whatever your situation! I'll personally watch for your posts! :)

 

Just to make things a little clearer, here at the CAG, no one will ever judge you! We're all in the same boat in one way or another. I like to see us as a collective debtor never giving in to, "the misery men".

 

Could I suggest that you contact the Consumer Credit Counselling Service, if you have serious debt problems.

 

CCCS - Contact Us

 

They are a registered charity and are actually funded by both the Government and the credit industry itself! Their service is completely free.

 

CCCS FREEPHONE helpline is open from 8am to 8pm Monday to Friday.

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If you want to write to us our mailing address is:

Consumer Credit Counselling Service,

Wade House,

Merrion Centre,

Leeds,

LS2 8NG.

 

You're with us now! Someone will always be there to help!

 

Good luck, best regards, dave.

 

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DMD

 

I have never tasted Vodka and hot Vimto but I bow to your better judgement!!!!

 

Good Luck and keep us all posted?

 

We are all rooting for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Regards

Mike

 

It's just like hot vimto, but with one hell of a kick!!! Excellent if you're feeling under the weather!

 

Letter going out to LTSB/BLS soon! (still not well!)

 

Dave.

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Seems that they must really be missing my £8 now (bless!).

 

Got this in the post today, it doesn't seem like they're going to have to consider 'phoning me at home anymore though...!

 

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I'm not going to send them a massive or in anyway well thought out letter, just an offence committed and do you want me to report you kinda thing... Will post more when I get more!

 

Regards all, Dave.

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