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Huddle Utilities Claimform - Shared Student Accommodation Util resellers - Elec/Gas/TV/BB/Water debt ***Claim Struck Out***


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unless they have already been to court and won, they can do nothing of the sort.

all just willy waving.

post it up here please suitably redacted.

read upload carefully

give us everything in one mass PDf in date order please.

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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just one mass PDF will do.

but please redact all pers detail dont worry about any fleecer details just her detail email name address ref no's etc.

just so THEY cant ID her here.

i recognise the user name we used to have another rob miller been here before?
 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so willy waving yes.

IF we win in court, then we would go for an attachment of earnings order.

wonder if they are trying this scam on all the students that were there..

thats the disadvantage of emails

free way to harass people.

pers i'd block and bounce their email addresses.

if they are really that serious

let them follow the pre-action protocol, which they must, giving you 30 days to reply

and then another 30 days before they can raise a court claim.

hope they weren't reselling all those utils at a higher price:pound:

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ensure all dd's are cancelled.

If they ever gave them a debit card number get it's CPA to them nulled too 

 

You aren't naming them so we can't check them out

 

Dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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of course

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Huddle Utilities Ltd Student utility debt

no dont enter stupid letter tennis

can you scam the letter/email up please.

 

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Huddle Utilities Ltd chasing 2019 Mass Utilities debt - now doorstepper!

been doing some background on HUDDLE UTILITIES LTD and the FAKE truenergy (closed) ex co. on the FCA register and companies house.

utter BS.

 

they CANT do doorsteppers, no co. can do that 

this co are NOT FCA registered so cannot carry out debt collection activities without permission.

you need to report these scammers!

those are employees posing as FAKE bailiffs. OPPSS!!

and the 'debt' is from a range of utils they provide from elec/gas/water to BB/TV and wireless access..

utter utter scammers. so which 'utility' did your daughter not pay..try and work that out from their bills...you cant.

 

with your history rob.

i'd be banging on the FCA's door very loudly .

there must be 10'000 of students getting scammed by these fleecers over outstanding bills.

and the list of closed companies the 'officers' have owned and gone bist or been closed down is as long as your arm.

the very best thing here is for them to get her in court.

their company would fall like a pack of cards one exposed

 


 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Huddle Utilities Ltd student utilities resellers chasing 2018 'debt' - fake bailiffs/doorstepper!??

na just that you cant poke a finger back..AFAIKS shame.

shame you didnt film them on your phone so it can go up on youtube.

they really cant do that.

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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anyone can down load that form and fill it in, i notice it has no date nor court stamp either , it could well be fake and just sent to intimidate

however, i see there is a claim no.

give CNBC (northants bulk<<clickme) a call tomorrow and ask if it real.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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is now the old CCBC (northants bulk MCOL) AND the old salford court whereby people could download the forms and send them off manually to the defendant and salford.

however i have a sneaking suspicion...going by they have not abided by the pre action protocol either..their fake bailiffs with cameras and everything when they are powerless debt collectors etc etc..that this is fake too.

going by the other fake claimforms we've seen here over the years...their past action tick every single same action prior to those we've already seen...FAKE!

dont give northants bulk any other details initially,  just say you have a claimform come thru in the post from a company called huddles utilities and its number is XXXXX and the form has no issue date nor a court stamp on it can you please check if that claim number is live claim please. then if you need to explain do so. they are well used to people sending these freely downloadable forms out but with no date/stamp and a fake claim number

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ah you didnt say it was emailed rob! def fake then.

you cant file claims via email. no if's or buts.

guessed right then.

pers i'd wind them up and reply, asking why are they sending out fake claimforms , using fake debt collecors with no powers pretending to be bailiffs etc.

id also report this to the authorities but who is a bit of a mystery...CSA  if they are registered, never used their site/complained so don't know.

 

dx

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Huddle Utilities Ltd student utils resellers chasing 2018 'debt' - fake bailiffs/doorstepper!?? now fake claimform
  • AndyOrch changed the title to Huddle Utilities Ltd student utils resellers chasing 2018 'debt' Claim Form issued.

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
[if mcol is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time]
.
 register as an individual on the Gov't Gateway Site
Go to HMRC's login page.
Click the GREEN sign in button.
Click “Create sign in details”
Enter your email address where asked.
You will now be emailed a confirmation code. ...
You will now be issued with a User ID for your government gateway account.
 note down your details inc the long gateway number given, you might need it later.
 then log in to the MCOL Website
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked
 you DO NOT file a defence at this time
[BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ]
click thru to the end
confirm and exit MCOL.
..
.
get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/

 type your name ONLY
Do Not sign anything
.do not ever use or give an email
.
you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork 
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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id wait as you need the mcol password from the info box.

dx

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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wrong cpr link sorry

try

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have a look at the utils response for a letter of claim<<clickme me 

use that list rob.

our CPR are years old and werent written to encompass  utils debts.

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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not sure what you are upto here rob................

 

util debts are not covered by the CCA so 2+3 are useless.

i did point toward our utils response to a letter of claim thread

their POC says:

Huddle Utilities Ltd is Claiming £XXX (but you blanked it out!!!...) from xxxx for our services of Providing their household bills with Electricity, Gas, TV Licence, Broadband and water a (blanked again) from (blank) to (blank)

despite numerous etc etc.

.................

their POC does not state WHAT they are actually claiming (one or all of the many services they claim to have supplied??)

so you need to ask

WHAT service(s) their claim relates too

a copy of the signed agreement between the claimant and the defendant to supply said services.

copies of all bills/invoices in the defendants name that they claim are outstanding to the claimant

detailed statements of said accounts of how the claimant has calculated the sum claimed.

.........

 

they wont reply. they dont have too.

CPR is a request ...not a legal requirement

 

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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thats ok rob.

their poc is seriously laughable, they dont even state what utils they actually supplied, just a vague list of their business model. this is because most students will wet themselves and cogh up inc fake costs etc etc, your daughter is lucky she has you.

forget what they have sent to date, the judge goes on their poc, and the 2 witness statements with exhibits if it ever gets that far!!

 

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so 1/4 of each service they supposedly supplied and she never paid.........

rob can you re scan the claimform and leave in all the  figures and dates please just redact her details and the claim number and the a/c number in the poc.

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well i cant make the claimform figure by adding  just one or 2 or 3, 4 utils sums from their letter.

they haven't a clue what they are doing 

they'll have to do better than that in their ws else the whole claim is going to fall apart for them

it really looks like from day one they were expecting mugs to panic and just pay this made up claim.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yep about what i spotted too.

i wonder if the others are being scammed too i cant see how 4 people can forget to pay £850.

something is very fishy here.

they cant charge a higher unit price on any util than what the landlord pays.

 

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have a look at a few util claimform threads

use our labelled enhanced google searchbox rob

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well either way if you pay its almost the same sum as if you defend and lose.

so run them around rob. IMHO

see what @Andyorch thinks?

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 cal month typically to pay

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 15/09/2023 at 20:17, dx100uk said:

have a look at a few util claimform threads

use our labelled enhanced google searchbox rob

dx

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what date is your filing? ...give us the claimform date from mcol please seems early for defence yet.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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