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Hi maxine,

 

What did I say previously...there's only one word for them maxine, and that's plonkers!!!!

 

You go girl, I'm routing for ya, got those fingers and toes fingers crossed again:D:D

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NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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Go get em Maxine!!

IF MY COMMENTS HAVE HELPED PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES

 

Don't be like the banks - give a little back

 

 

:D NAT WEST - WON - £4282.36:D

 

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It cost me £55... and said it could take up to two weeks!!! They have to send the warrant up to the head office in London...

 

It's all done now, so I can do nothing but wait.

 

I noticed on the judgment form that the amount due did not have the extra bit of interest on it... the interest that has accumilated since the day I originally filed at court, up to today. If and when they make a payment, how do I go about getting the interest back if they haven't paid it...as already it is almost £100.00??

 

Any ideas anyone?

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Firstly well done on getting down to the court, I am sure it will take less than 2 weeks [if I was the bailiff a nice visit to lloyds is a lot more fun than wandering around tower hamlets]

How did you apply the wording on the original claim because you should have used the " " interest at a daily rate of x to be added to the claim to point of judgement or settlement whichever is earlier, or along those lines assuming you did back to court and ask them to add it to the existing claim , if not back to court to start a new claim [so i hope you added it!]

best wishes and keep us to date.

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Having read many threads, I believe that when they finally make you an offer, you happen to put in your response that you will accept the amount providing they reimburse you the charge/ interest accumulated since the claim was filed and to date. Failure to do so will result in you taking them to court all over again.

If you have a butchers at thecobbetslayers' thread you'll see he ended up taking them to court for the AQ fee, it's great reading, well worth the look:D

:DSUCCESSESS:D

NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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How did you apply the wording on the original claim because you should have used the " " interest at a daily rate of x to be added to the claim to point of judgement or settlement whichever is earlier, or along those lines assuming you did back to court and ask them to add it to the existing claim , if not back to court to start a new claim [so i hope you added it!]

best wishes and keep us to date.

 

Yes Neil... Luckily I did the correct woring in the particulars.

 

Thanks for the well wishes... I will keep you posted as to what happens over the coming days.

 

Muggins... will take a look at the thread you mentioned.

 

Ta.

 

Maxine :-)

Moodle

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Go get em Maxine!!

 

Thanks deller........ I wish I was a fly on the wall when the baylifs (sorry if it's spelt wrong... It's not a word I've had to write often and so I am not sure about that) enter the head office... hee hee. Ooo it would be very satisfying!

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Gosh, I'm almost peeing myself with excitement:D

:DSUCCESSESS:D

NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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There was a knock at the door this morning at 8am in the middle of the hectick time of getting all the kids up and ready for school...

 

I went to the door but the postie had already drove away leaving a red docket stating there was a 'sign for' letter waiting at the post office in 5 hours time.... ooooo what can it be.... 5 hours passed and with the littlest child wrapped up to face the winter elements I strolled down the the post office with the buggy...

 

What did I find???

 

Yes, you've guessed it... a great big fat cheque with a RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) letter head... which confused me somewhat...they must own Natwest i assume... anyway.... I was shaking with excitment... YIPPEEEE

 

 

I WON I WON!!! I'm too excited to write wat the letter said now... i will do it later after I have calmed down and had a bath and a glass of wine...

 

(I have won on account number 1 anyway.... account number 2 is going to court... had defence and questionare yesterday)

 

So... I continued down to my brach and paid it in... what a relief... at last!!! One of many claims I have on the go has finally been settled.

 

Thank you so much everyone... right... as soon as the cheque clears I will donate... how do I do it???

 

I Won...YAY!!!!

 

:smile::D :o :D:smile:

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Ah thanks Neil... I am all calm now... Yay... I won I won!!

 

This is what the letter said for anyone who's interested. I hope I am not doing anything wrong by typing it's contents... I am sure I am not as I have seen similar letters on here... just gives me a shudder!!

 

Claim Number: ********

 

The above claim has been passed to the Group Litigation section of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Would you please address all future correspondence in this matter to this address.

 

I enclose a cheque in the sum of £*,***.00 in respect of the Default Judgment you obtained. This sum is paid in full and final settlement of your claim. Please also note that the payment is made with no admission of liability and is subject to youur agreement not to court publicity, or disclose or refer to any third party the background to this matter, and to keep the terms of this settlement strictly private and confidential.

 

Yours Faithfully

 

Benjamin Mathers

Trainee Solictor

 

ooppss!

 

yay I won....

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May I be the second...

 

Great news, now it's just a matter of waiting for account #2 to follow suit, which I am in no doubt will do soon.

 

To donate all you need to is click on the buttton at the very top of this page, they'll ask you to complete a survey to.

 

Once more, well done, maxine:D

:DSUCCESSESS:D

NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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Well that was definately not 2 weeks! well done suggest you write a final letter back acknowleding payment and confirming that you did not agree to there added terms, you should also write a letter to the court confirming receipt of the payment .

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Thanks for your congratulations

 

Well, I have got to go down to the court today to take the Allocation Questionnaire for the other claim, so I will mention the settlement to them when I am there.

 

I have go 5 things to do at the court today...

 

1. The questionnaire for Natwest ac no.2

2. Let them know that Natwest ac no.1 has been settled

3. Judgement on Halifax... 28 days are up and no defence submitted

4. Judgement on Barclays bank... ditto

4. Order under section 7 blar blar Data Protection against Barclaycard (no statements)

 

It's all go...

 

But I just keep thinking... I WON I WON!!

Moodle

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Thanks for your congratulations

 

Well, I have got to go down to the court today to take the Allocation Questionnaire for the other claim, so I will mention the settlement to them when I am there.

 

I have go 5 things to do at the court today...

 

1. The questionnaire for NatWest ac no.2

2. Let them know that Natwest ac no.1 has been settled

3. Judgement on Halifax... 28 days are up and no defence submitted

4. Judgement on Barclays bank... ditto

4. Order under section 7 blar blar Data Protection against Barclaycard (no statements)

 

It's all go...

 

But I just keep thinking... I WON I WON!!

 

Blimey, lovey not that much to do then!!!!! LOL

:DSUCCESSESS:D

NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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I know...

 

At the beginning of all this I made the mistake a starting all of my claims off at the same time... and now it seems as though there is always something that needs doing.

 

I feel like I am working in an office... my back room (the computer room) looks like an office with piles of papers here and there. I have big lists and a big calendar planner poster on the wall.

 

Phew... some days my head is spinning with all the things I have going on.

 

It will all be worth it in the end. I am hoping to get myself out of debt by doing all this.

 

I went to the court today and got all the things done. Now I need to write a letter to the court (where the summonds was sent to) to explain that I have received a payment. I am going to cook dinner now and so will be tapping away on the computer later when my hubby is busy watching the football. Oh it's a hard life for my man... finishes work at 3pm then he lights a fire -in the fire place- and cracks open a beer. He's off snowboarding on Saturday for a week leaving me to contend with three kids... ARGGHHH... Oh I don't mind really, as I am having a girly weekend in Brighton when he gets back.

 

I notice muggins... you live in the new forest... nice.

Moodle

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I can't imagine what it feels like to win...... MANY CONGRATS!!!! And good luck with your other claim. I hope to join you in the successes forum very soon x

 

It feels great although I wont see any of the dosh. I am going to be sensible and pay off my credit cards. Good luck to you too... :-)

Moodle

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This is the letter I am sending to the court.

 

 

Clerkenwell & Shorditch County Court

The Gee Street Courthouse

29-41 Gee Street

London EC1V 3RE

 

Claim Number: ********

Claimant: Maxine989

Defendant: Natwest Bank plc

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

I recently won my case by default and entered the judgement requesting immediate payment. However, after 7 days I still had not receive payment from the defendant and so I issued a warrant against Natwest Bank for the total of £*,***.00 plus costs.

 

In the correspondence from Natwest (via The Group Litigation Section of The Royal bank of Scotland) it states that the judgement I obtained is a full and final settlement of my claim and that payment is made with no admission of liability and is subject to my agreement not to court publicity, or disclose or refer to any third arty the background of this matter. The defendant also states I must keep the terms of this settlement strictly private and confidential. I wish to inform the court that I accept the sum of £*,***.00 as a settlement although I do not agree to the defendant’s added terms.

 

I also wish to confirm that I have received a cheque for the £*,***.00 and so only require the warrant costs of £55 recovered.

 

 

Your Faithfully

 

 

maxine989

Moodle

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Me again

 

So account 1 is all done and dusted...

 

Now account number 2...

 

In this mornings post I had a copy of Cobbetts Allocation Questionare. In the 'other information' section it said this:

 

The Claimant has not shown that he has reasonable grounds for bringing the claim and despite the Defendant requesting that the Calimant remedy the lack of particularity pleaded in the particulars of Claim, the Claimant has failed to do so. Case managements directions cannot be proposed until the Claimant fully particularises his claim. In light of this, the Defendant may amend its Defence or apply to ostrike out.

 

Sorry to sound a bit dumb, but.... :confused:

 

I have had no request to remedy the lack of particularity ... and I have gone through the whole claim using the usual standard procedures. I assume this is just another hoop to make me jump through...

 

I don't really understand what they are saying... are they saying that they may strike out my claim?? Are they asking the judge to strike my claim off??

 

Anyone get any ideas on this?

Moodle

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