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right slow down and follow the correct advice

I've removed various links you have posted as they have obviously lead you up the wrong garden path to take since you started to sort this issue.

 

your story is extremely confusing because you have wrongly followed 1001 things that you shouldn't have done in the 1st place

 

by following that info to date you have confused things so badly that it very difficult to work out exactly what you have and haven't done to date.

 

I will summarise what I believe here has happened as its a lot simpler to sort your issue than what you have done to date

however there might be questions yet to be answered BEFORE we can recommend what you should do next.

 

to me it looks like you have received a council Penalty charge notice [fine]

AND 

a speculative invoice CCJ

and have confused the two?

 

I say this because newlyns are bailiffs and they dont get involved in private parking ticket matters.

and the figure of £359.63 is NOT correct as it doesn't i bet correspond to the total of the sum claimed on the UKCPM claimform?

 

so you've not actually paid off the CCJ to newlyns but another council penalty charge notice not related at all to the CCJ

this makes sense as your mention a second fine from UKCPM [which in not a fine]

 

please bear with us we need to see...

 

the original UKCPM windscreen ticket

the notice to keeper from UKCPM.

any letter from newlyn that you have.

 

scan these up to ONE MULTIPAGE PDF ONLY. read upload

 

as for the CCJ.

im pretty sure you are getting the streets mixed up between the council pcn and the UKCPM speculative invoice one/CCJ

 

you haven't paid the CCJ within 28days

therefore even if you pay it now it wont be removed

 

the only way to get the CCJ removed is to set it aside.

however ..have you a copy of the claimform and the judgement CCJ? too

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no i can see what they have done now.

 

newlyns have done yo over further by adding fees to the CCJ amount

conning you into thinking they are bailiffs

they are not!!

 

and cannot add anything to the judgement sum.

so id go do a chargeback on your debit card and get that money back from you bank 

you have been duped paid under duress.

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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probably used the word fined for parking

and

fined by the court over the phone too and thats why you keep refering to it being a fine..its not.

 

had blind from day 1.

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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eh just a silly though

have you confirmation from nothants bulk that this ccj has been settled ?

if not makes a chargeback more interesting as it wouldn't thus hurt you doing so?

 

dx

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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for your anon safety I've removed the PDf in post 16

as you've used a felt pen and we can see all your details clearly.

i'll redact then for you later today.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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asking for it to be set aside by mutual consent directly to the claimant or their solicitor can be almost instant in resolving the ccj showing on your credit file. no need for any hearing.

set aside using an N244 will take weeks even months to get a result 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ring gladstones tomorrow don't write.

 

points to batter gladstones with.

1.the photos contained in the NTK dated xxxx show a road not the same as in the particulars of claim dated xxxx from the claimform 

 

2. newlyns are not acting as bailiffs in this matter. they are in this instance a DCA they have no legal authority to add anything to a judgement CCJ.

 

3.this is contempt of court and highly illegal and criminal for them to do so and you gladstones as the solicitor are complicit in allowing this unjust extortion.

 

I have paid the sum the newlyns directly on xxx date inc the illegal extra change to a judgement debt whereby the judge gave no permission for extra cost to be added.

 

you are hereby instructed to removed the illegal CCJ

and to refund me the illegal fees added by newlyns.

if you refuse to do this

I will be informing the judge directly of these actions and demanding compensation against you.

 

I asked a q earlier, I can't see any answer..have you any confirmation from northants bulk that the ccj has been settled?

 

all docs are contained below properly redacted.

 

 

 

 

 

docs1.pdf

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Have northants confirmed the ccj is now settled?

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no point in asking direct questions EB you dont get an answer.

bit like trump this thread.

 

I bet the CCJ isn't even settled anyway and gladstones, newlyns and ukcpm have all been down the pub since getting that free money.

 

don't understand playing the mr niceguy either..

they stitched you up ...go batter them.

 

 

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notes

1.1 it is not a penalty charge notice.

 

1.2 mistake on date of 6/3/19 should be 6/11/19?
and tbh 1.2 doesnt help you at all ..id drop it completely

3

drop 1.3 totally 
simply state you only became aware by a CRA check date.

 

1.4 remove all before my payment [irrelevant info]
and remove proves that..thru till  ..i have

 

 

 

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You never need a solicitor

Extreme waste of money

Everything is here already in threads

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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CAB are useless at private parking stuff.

 

you need to trust the experts here that are well experienced in these parking matter.

 

as for my suggestion for changes to your WS, you don't need any mitigating circumstances 

the fact that the speculative invoice and the particulars of claim do not relate to the same location should be well enough to throw the claim out.

 

should you wish to inc your photos of your latest pix2 pdf to further prove the above fact then do so but label them and refer to them as exhibit 1,2,3 etc in your WS at the relevant places.

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its not a full hearing and that might never happen.

 

the main issue here is outlined in post 63.

and ofcourse you knowing about this or that is immaterial to that fact.

I would simply refer too and inc say 2 exhibits that prove the location issue.

 

 

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the fleecers have no say in the matter and you don't need their consent.

you are the doing the set aside because of their mistake and refusal to mutually accept a set aside outside of the court process.

 

let the judge be the one to decide what actions to take once he reads the case.

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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where does any of the paperwork from day one state its a penalty or a fine please? 

 

for your safety as being anon i've had to remove your documents as if you look in the file properties section it gives all your pers details

 

file, save as, .pdf in the dropdown menu after changing your pers detail to … in office setup. or use a sep online docx - pdf converter website.

 

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what im trying to point out is that by using those two words fine and penalty after all your research your mindset is still not quite in the right box..

 

it cant be either,

it was a speculative invoice issued by a private company for breaking some kind of imaginary contract you signed upto by entering a privately owned area .

 

 

 

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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its never been a penalty charge notice, only a parking charge notice.

only the police/council/court can fine anyone for parking and that's via a magistrates court and its a criminal matter

 

not a speculative invoice which is a civil matter hence the county court and the CCJ for unpaid money to a creditor.

 

it needs a lot of work

i'll pop by later tonight.

 

but your real only need is to :

point out

 

1. why you didnt get the claimform

2. the discrepancy between the claimed parking location in their poc and the actual location of your parking location

ref/inc of photos will do.

anything else is irrelevant at this stage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Anything else is for later if it progresses

 

I am the registered keeper of vehicle make/reg

Needs to be with your 1st lines

 

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their poc says merlin road

 

where are you claiming the photos of your parked car on ther NTK are taken

to me it looks like merlin road

 

in post one you've changed the poc to say FAKE road. why?

 

 

 

 

 

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thank you.

so Kestrel Road

 

combine your defence into your WS

 

at each point you made refer to ONE piece of evidence via exhibit xx to back it up.

 

IMHO as it stands, you have too many points and too much evidence.

 

I was playing last night....

 

IN THE NORTHAMPTON COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE 

Claim No. 

BETWEEN: 

UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED 

Claimant 

– and – 

Defendant 

YOUR NAME  

____________________________________ 
WITNESS STATEMENT OF XXXXXXX 
______________________________________  

I am XXXX XXXX, of MY ADDRESS NO.3 

 

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle reg/make model

 

This is my Witness Statement made in support of my set aside application dated XX November 2019 in relation to the forthwith default judgement of £269.53 dated 14/08/2019 Claim number ……..

 

My vehicle has never been parked on Merlin Road, the location described in the Claimants Particulars of claim

 

the claimants Notice to keeper photographs [Exhibit x,] show the parking location as xxxx road. 

 

i was refused settlement of the Default Judgment Order of £269.53 with the Claimant and Gladstones Solicitors in respective phone conversations on 7th and 8th November 2019, both referred me to Newlyn Debt Collection Ltd. 

 

Newlyn Debt Collection Ltd through their letters [Exhibit F] and over phone conversation 7th November 2019 duped me into payment. 

 

They informed me over the phone that if I do not pay by Friday the 8th November 2019, their bailiffs will come early morning on Saturday 9th November and clamp my car and repossess my house if I own one. 

I settled the sum of £359.53,

 

etc etc

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

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yes formal demand..

but it gave you the pix of your car

from that

you now have proved their particulars of claim are for the wrong road = set aside.

 

as for other cases id leave that till later IF another hearing happens [parking prankster website] 

 

so carry on from my above, 

next part is newlyns are a DCA , they cant add anything to any court judgement settlement - abuse of court process:noidea: 

 

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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4.0 drop all mention of a mortgage.

 

6.0

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I also demand the return of my £359.53 payment made under duress to newlyns Debt collectors.

 

they as a DCA have no legal right to add £100 to a default judgement and were not operating as bailiffs.

 

Their separate Bailiff company even if involved did not issue the required notice of enforcement.

 

i plead to the court to note the above action as i believe this is highly unlawful and possibly in contempt of a court judgement and maybe even a case of extortion.

 

a company that operates separate debt collection and bailiff wings should know better .

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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not were not... cannot operate as bailiffs nor add anything to a court judgement.

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Its 30 days

And im unsure what actionfraud would ever be able to do....

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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c) is it actually a contract because there was no offer "parking is allowed if fee is paid" but " parking not allowed" 
- is it a parking charge fine or is it a penalty? 
if penalty invoice, should it be an invoice for trespassing? - load of twaddle? it is NOT a FINE nor a PENALTY.

 

d) no markings on the road (double lines) to highways standard communicating there is no parking allowed. 
If this is the objective of the Claimant why was this not done? - DYL's mean noting on private land mere tarmac graffiti.

 

f) Newlyn has obtained the payment under pressure  ( I have managed to obtained recordings of phone conversation with Newlyn which I will transcribe and attach, the two that are relevant) - should say duress not pressure. (you were led to believe they were acting as bailiffs. they COULD NOT be acting as bailiffs as the judgement was less than £600. they were a mere powerless DCA in this instance)

 

Also to add to 14, 11 Nov 2019 The Claimant sent initial SAR Request, followed by second and third copy in March to which she had no response from the Claimant. (exhibit) - the claimant sent sar???

 

re their WS: ive removed it as claim number is on page 1..
reg/pcn no page 10

 

1. - relying on here say evident 'believed to be true by the writer.

 

9. it makes no odd the vehicle was parked unattended. or not.

 

16 - newlyns were not acting as bailiffs and cannot add any enforcement fees..

 

exhibits

there is not evidence the contract has been annually paid till and inc 2020.

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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