VCS PCN Claimform - no stopping - spycar CCTV - Liverpool Airport "offence"

[Hobnail]

Hi Guys

 

Started a new thread on this as there are quite a few on here already that I have read.

 

Would be greatful for any advice on this.

 

My partner has received a PCN from VCS Ltd saying that she owes them £100 for stopping on red lines. Or only £60 within 14 days of the issue date.

 

She wanted to just pay it and I said no chance. So I'm gonna fight it on her behalf. I have had no contact with VCS and after reading other threads will be ignoring any letters until there is a letter from a solicitor regarding a court summons.

 

Is this the correct procedure at this point?

 

Cheers

hobnail

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement - 30/8/19

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] - 6/9/19

 

3 Date received - 12/9/19

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] - NO

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? - YES

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] - NO

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up - N/A

 

7 Who is the parking company? - Vehicle Control Services Ltd

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] - Liverpool JL Airport L24 1YD

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. - looks like IAS

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here - N/A

 

Here is the pdf as requested

 

cheers

front and back of letter

 

 

 

 

back of letter

PCN-NTK.pdf

[Hobnail]

so all that being said is it same as other threads. Eg, ignore all letters until a solicitor gets involved?

 

cheers again

hobnail

 

[Hobnail]

Thats ok honeybee if you a mod I can understand that

 

So i'll just ignore until I get a Letter Before Action right?

 

They must really coin it in from people who can't be asked to fight it or just think its "the law"

 

What a sad world we live in when greed and corruption are the norm.

hobnail

 

 

[Hobnail]

Aye they are scumbags alright.

 

We were late getting to the airport so droped the girlfriend off to check bags in before I went to park the car in prepay carpark.

 

Saw they wanted £3 just to drop off so though I'll just pull over - only took about 60 secs. So they fleece you for £3 or £100 either way they robbing you blind.

 

 

[Hobnail]

Cheers everyone for the advice.

 

How long before I can expect the Letter Before Action is sent my way - presumably this will be after several threatening letters to our address with  the "penalty" costs rising every time right?

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

Hello again,

 

I was wondering how long it would be before I start getting more letters from VCS. Its been over a month now since our first letter.

 

Is it usual for them to take ages to sent further threats of court/increased fines ect.....??

 

Is it wishful thinking that they leave us alone now?

 

Cheers again

hobnail

 

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

Hi brassnecked

 

No I've ignored them so far. Told to just wait until I get the LBA from them. Just thought it strange I've had no more threats from them since. I was expecting more "fear" thats all.

 

Not that I'm worried tho

[Hobnail]

Hi good people

 

We finally got a second letter from VCS so I though I would post it here to keep you all up to date and keep the tread alive as I will be needing assistance once I get the Letter Before Action.

 

Cheers again

 

 

pcn - vcs final reminder.pdf

[Hobnail]

Another update to the thread.

 

We got this letter over the weekend. "fine" now up to £160 and likely to rise.

 

How long before the letter before action anyone any ideas?

 

Is the letter before action from a solicitor?

 

cheers

 

 

VCS - Final Reminder.pdf

[Hobnail]

So question

 

Does the LBA come from the [problematic] Solicitor?

And if soon how many threats is it usually before this happens?

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Hi guy thought I would update you all. Got this new letter just before Xmas its not a LBA as far as I can tell but it looks like they have sold the "debt" on to  a new company. Is this a new tactic of VCS Ltd????

 

If so can I just expect more threats thru the post or could I now get the LMA from this new company - Debt Recovery Plus?

 

Cheers again

 

 

DR+ threat-o-gram.pdf

[Hobnail]

Ok cheers

 

I'm very relaxed about it TBH. I've not contacted with them whatsoever so far. They can sent as many threats as they want I won't be loosing any sleep

 

Edited December 27, 2019 by Hobnail
misspell

[Hobnail]

Quick update to the thread.

 

Had a new letter today. I don't think its the LBA I'm waiting for - just another threat. Please could someone have a look and see if I'm correct on this.

 

Cheers

hobnail

 

dr+ 2nd threat-o-gram.pdf

[Hobnail]

Ok cool thought it looked like more rubbish.

 

I'll add it to my collection of threat o'grams and do nothing.

 

Like I said before I've had no contact with them whatsover. Surely they would have to prove who was driving the car anyway (if my partner admitted to it) before they could even think about taking to court?

 

Anyway cheers for the help again. I'll sit back and relax some more

hobnail

 

[Hobnail]

thought I was up to speed???

 

I'm waiting for a letter before action/court. Then I engage with my one and only letter to them telling them to go swivel cos they have no claim against us right?

 

Would you rather me not post updates? thought it helped the site to do this. Surely people posting updates keeps everyone in the know about these bandits current tactics?

 

hobnail

 

[Hobnail]

Cheers HB

 

I have read quite a few other threads although it was back in sep/oct when I first found the site. Will try and have a look at a few more time permmiting.

 

not sure what DX's point was.

 

hobnail

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

Latest threat from them came about a week ago.

 

I'm beginging to think the LBA is not going to be forthcoming.

 

 I read earlier in thread that VCS can't get a Solicitor to take it on for them so maybe this is all they can do.

 

Anyway I've attacted latest letter to keep up to date.

 

 

DR+ 3rd threat-o-gram.pdf

[Hobnail]

Here is the latest "threat" from a new "debt" collector.

 

I guess they try a few letters then pass it on to a new one.

 

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it's funny how the amount is going down everytime they offer us a chance to settle!

 

Still no letter before action though.

Zenith DCA 1st threat-o-gram.pdf

[Hobnail]

Okay here is the latest letter we received yesterday.

 

Although it doesn't say "Letter Before Action" it does state "Notice of intention to commence legal proceedings" is this the same thing????

 

I suspect this is more threat o grams and I can still ignore it as it does not look like any of the LMA letters I have seen on the site.

 

Or if anyone thinks a snotty letter should be sent I could construct one?

 

Cheers

 

 

Zenith - Notice of intention to commence legal proceedings.pdf

[Hobnail]

Cheers for the replies.

 

I will carry on relaxing about it all. 

I'm not gonna write any letters unless I have too.

Don't want to spend the cost of a stamp on them.

 

Its discusting that firstly the Airports let VCS have a contract to fleece people and then the DVLA sell peoples details on to him. 

Both are obviously making a nice earner out of it.

 

Our society is rotten to the core when this is going on. 

A people with no morals equals a people that are ultimately enslaved.

It's how the Law of Nature works.

 

 

[Hobnail]

Hello good people.

 

It's been ages since I posted on this thread. I have had a few more threats from new debt collecting companys but did'nt post because I knew that was all they where.

 

I got this one yesterday and wandered if someone could have a look and tell me if this is the "letter before action" I've been waiting for since back in 2019.

 

As it states Notion of Intended Legal Action. Does this now require a letter by me to be sent to the debt collector?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

DCBL DCA Threat-o-gram.pdf

[Hobnail]

Ok cheers for that.

 

I haven't had to deal with this for a while so a bit rusty. Its just looked different from the other threats.

 

Like you say see what others think too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

Thanks for the replies.

 

So nothing to worry about.

 

Does a letter before action come from a solicitor acting on behalf of the debt collectors/baliffs then?

 

I understand once a debt is paid (by the dca) it is no longer a debt in law.

 

We have had about four different DCA's write to us over this since the "offence" back in August 2019. Selling it on and hoping we take the bait.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hobnail]

Cheers for the info.

 

I will add my recent letter to the recycling paper bin.