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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
    • The date was 3 June. Get on MCOL now. The legal principle is that, even if you defence is late, if the other party hasn't requested judgement, then your defence takes priority and is accepted. You might be in time. When I say now I mean now.  Recently we had someone who was nine days' late and this was pointed out to them at 5:30pm.  They faffed around till 11pm.  When they went on MCOl they saw that judgement had been entered at 7pm. Every minute is vital. File the below standard defence if you still can - 1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle]. 2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim.    4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer.  6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.
    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
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I'll look forward to that drink - good girl for sticking to the juice !! The mugshot - not many peeps seem to do that, but I followed Michael - MCuth's lead and stuck one up there. It is nice to see who's on the other end, isn't it ? Nice one of you !! :)

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Aw thanks! Was taken a year ago but it's the only one i had a work!!

It is good to be able to put a face to the name (not that king kong wasn't a good look for you!!! Haha!!!)

Just told my bosses that i'm leaving in 2 weeks - they were so adorable, i almost don't wanna go now!

xxx

S.A.R Sent (Rec. Del.): Thurs 23rd Nov 06 ;)

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Mine's over a year old. I'm balder now !! Old Kong seemed an improvement on me, so he got to be the avatar !!

 

Glad they were OK about you leaving - but they can't really get too difficult about it, can they ? If they're being THAT nice - watch your back !!!

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Hello!

Just a quick update, and a request for advice (as always seems the case these days!)

I received my duplicate statements last week, as promised, and today got the microfiche printouts. However, i'm sure there's stuff missing (Over a years worth of statements) If i sent my first SAR in Nov 06 - i can request statements back to Nov 00 surely!? But they only go back to Jan 02.

 

I had a look in the templates bit for the letter, but it didn't seem appropriate as, in all honesty, i'm not sure about the 40 days, with the change of address thing - i just want the info now - as i'm moving house tomorrow and want to get this sorted.

 

Any help would be great!! Thanks, as always xxxxxxx

S.A.R Sent (Rec. Del.): Thurs 23rd Nov 06 ;)

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Hi Jodie, they have to provide you with all the relevant data they hold on you. There is no time limit on this. If they still have 10year old data that's in a relevant system then they have to provide it.

 

So don't state a time-frame - tell them you want it all, and you are entitled to it all.

 

They always do this. :-x

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Thanks again Bill - i'll do that! Will write a letter wwhen i get home.

Moving back down to my mum's tomorrow - so everything's a bit hectic!!

Thanks so much for all your help - i def owe you a drink or 10!!! xxxxxxx

S.A.R Sent (Rec. Del.): Thurs 23rd Nov 06 ;)

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Hello!! Can't believe it's been so long since i last wrote - but its been a bit chaotic with the move and getting everything prepared for the baby!

But everything's calmed down now so wiling to fight again! Wahey!

 

Bill recommended i wrote a letter to Abbey (thanks Bill!) as they hadn't included all the info (Over a yr's missing) I never managed to write the letter, and being outta the swing of things, does anyone have a rough template i can use? Its been ages and well over the 40 days, so not sure where i stand on this one!

 

Sorry!!! And thanks again in advance!

Lots of love and baby hugs

*J* xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

S.A.R Sent (Rec. Del.): Thurs 23rd Nov 06 ;)

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Hi Jodie - How you doin' ;)

 

Nice to see you back again, and I hope our mum-to-be is getting along OK !!!

 

If you can use any of this, you're welcome - I sent it a while back, and eventually got my further data.

 

Dear XXXXX

Data Protection Act 1998 - Subject Access Request

Thank you for your letter of XXXX, and for the data sent so far. With regard to all accounts, where data is no longer available, then please clearly confirm this, with a description of the nature of all such data, and the dates covered by it. Please confirm the time and method of disposal of all such data. This is important information which I require. With regard to other accounts held with you, please supply all data for XXXX account nos. XXXX, XXXX, AND XXXX. So far, no data whatsoever has been received pertaining to these. Please supply this data immediately.

You have had well over the time allocated to supply this information, and I have submitted a formal complaint to the Information Commissioner’s Office concerning your conduct. You have not complied with the Data Protection Act, despite my every effort to assist you to do so. Unless all data is supplied immediately, I shall be forced to commence proceedings against you for non-compliance.

I originally sent my Subject Access Request on XXXX, enclosing the £10 fee required. The request contained the following paragraph: “If there is specific information which you require in order to satisfy yourself as to our identity, please let me know by return post or by e-mail. However, please note that the above address is the one which you normally use to communicate our private business to us and which you have hitherto found to be acceptable.” My original request was:

“Please supply me with a complete list of transactions and charges relating to our banking history with your organisation. Alternatively, a complete set of statements for that period will be acceptable.

Additionally, where there has been any event in my account history over this period which has required manual intervention by any member of your staff, or any other person, I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention, or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to our banking business with you.

If you are unable to supply this data because there has been no such manual intervention, then please be so kind as to confirm this in your response.”

I beg to remind you that you are required by the Data Protection Act to provide all data held by you, and not just data pertaining to the most recent six years. Therefore, for the avoidance of any doubt:-

1. Where data is held for you by a third party, then please retrieve and supply all such data;

2. Where data is held, but not in a relevant filing system, then please confirm this, with a description of the nature of all such data, and the dates covered by it;

3. Where data is no longer available, then please confirm this, with a description of the nature of all such data, and the dates covered by it. Please confirm the time and method of disposal of all such data.

Of the accounts we have held with you, these are account numbers which I am able to provide you with, to assist you in locating all relevant data:-

Current Account No. XXXX

Deposit Account No. XXXX

XXXX Credit Card Account No. XXXX

XXXX account Nos. XXX, XXX, AND XXX

Previous addresses:- XXXX,

and:- XXXX,

and:-XXXX

Yours sincerely

 

Bill-k

HTH, matey,

Bill.

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Aww thanks ever so much Bill - you've been so fantastic!! I shall amend that letter if thats ok and get it sent ASAP!! :D:D:D

 

Don't suppose you live within travelling distance to Bromley, Kent?! Should definitely buy you that drink I owe you!!!

 

Myself and bump are fine thanks! Had my scan a few weeks back and everything's wonderful!!

 

If you fancy a chat or wanna see the little one - feel free to drop me and email - i'm almost always around!!!

 

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Love n baby hugs :p

xxxxxxxxxxx

S.A.R Sent (Rec. Del.): Thurs 23rd Nov 06 ;)

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Thanks for the invite, matey. A drink's out of the question unfortunately, but I might just drop you a line later - thanks. :)

 

PS - an extra bit you might want to put in the letter - transcripts and/or recordings of telephone conversations. Some peeps get sent a CD !!!

 

....I didn't :(

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Hi, when you ask for the dates of destructin, ask for Certificates of destruction - they have to keep these, the Information Commissioner said so LOL

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Hi, when you ask for the dates of destructin, ask for Certificates of destruction - they have to keep these, the Information Commissioner said so LOL

Thank you, Lula - I didn't know that. I will now demand those, too.

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thanks Bill, I am like a broken record about these at the moment, shAbbey seem to have realised that they have no defence to the Statute of Limitations, so whenever anyone asks for information over 6 years they send out a letter saying that they are not required to keep the information - methinks they protesteth too much :D

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