The EU why can’t we go it alone?

[unclebulgaria67]

I am struggling to think what problems the EU presents to the UK. UK governments of all parties have quickly implemented most EU laws without any arguments and have even applied gold plating when passing legislation.

 

LBC's James O'Brien has done several phone ins where he has asked for specific EU issues people had a problem with and very few issues were raised. From memory it was only the power of vaccum cleaners and how various foods were subject to rules.

 

I am not convinved that Brexit would make any difference to the UK and it might just remove some rights people currently have. For example rights of movement, buying a holiday home abroad without facing more taxes than locals, being able to access local public healthcare in any EU country, EU arrest warrant, EU consumer rights across the whole of the EU, EU cross border use of courts.

 

If the UK left the EU, we would have years of negotiations and parliament spending most of the time processing bills to change tbe current laws. Do we really need this hassle, when the world is in such a mess ?

[unclebulgaria67]

I think i am voting out, why, because i don't think we need it, USA, China, Australia and countless others do just fine without being a part of it, and costing more than 63 million £ a day to be told what we can and can't do by the germans and others....i think not, our country, our boarders, our people, lets take control back and start making this country great again for the future generation. As for the military aspect of it, we go hand in hand with the US, they help us, we help them between us we are a military powerhouse.

 

In the new world we are moving into, you will see major trade/resource battles between the big powers e.g China, US, EU, India. The natural resources of this planet are fast reducing, because of globalisation and increasing human population.

 

Do you really want to risk UK negotiating power in the world, by moving from a market of 600 million people that is the EU and simply being an independent UK of under 70 million ?

 

Yes the EU has become too centralised, but you don't walk away from one of the major trading blocks in the world, hoping that you can do a better deal as a totally independent country.

 

After Brexit, the UK is likely to remain in the EU for about 5 years, as negotiations take place. The UK will still be paying into the EU and accepting EU laws. Immigration to the UK is likely to increase, as will the number of British citizenship applications. If you think it is bad now, it will get worse.

 

Then there are the economic consequences as the markets decide they don't like Brexit causing uncertainty. This could have a long term impacts on the UK, with interest on UK debts increasing, currency instability etc.

 

Personally, i would not take the risk. Better to negotiate a better deal within the EU, as other countries want changes anyway.

[unclebulgaria67]

 

Does the EU still look great to you?

Yes?

Well, think about this then: Apparently we waste £60 million a day by giving it to the EU.

How many nurses and doctors, police officers, soldiers, public servants etc. could we employ if we saved this money?

 

I would prefer for the UK to remain part of the EU, as i think we are better to be part of something larger, than some little island full of small minded people who think the country is great. I am an internationalist, that prefers to look at the world as being a larger community of people.

 

Whether the UK votes for Brexit or not, we will still pay into the EU to have full access to the market and we will have to implement most EU law. For example i doubt that UK fisheries policy will be changed much, as most of the trawlers operate in international waters and share the seas with boats that come from many different countries. In regard to Agriculture, it is highly likely that the UK will maintain the same situation as applies under EU.

 

I would rather have European politicians overseeing the UK, than rely on the House of Lords, holding a UK government to account. The HOL is an unelected chamber with no government majority and the current government are increasingly trying to stop them amending their legislation, when they raise reasonable points. It is getting to the stage where the HOL is pointless. Also UK courts rarely apply rulings against UK government positions.

 

The EU and European courts are a healthy addition to the political system of the UK. While the UK has a first past the post system, it means a government can hold a majority with the votes of less than a quarter of those registered to vote. It is often the EU that ordinary British people look to gain employment and other rights that a UK government had been unwilling to accept.

 

There is also the financial position that Brexit would present. Pound Sterling has already reduced just with the referendum called. If people vote Brexit they are risking an unknown situation that might have an adverse effect on pensions, mortgages, savings etc.

 

Prior to the referendum people need facts, but i should imagine we won't get them.