Any one else have problems with the new DLA form ?

[mr_mastiff]

Hi Mike, I am a bit slow at times is it the P.I.P form you are asking about.

 

Edited for information.

 

If it is this is the assessment criteria.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pip-assessment-criteria

 

Also this is a good guide

 

http://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/personal-independence-payment-pip

Edited October 21, 2013 by mr_mastiff

[mr_mastiff]

Mike, Are you on DLA now?

 

All new claims from june 2013 would be for P.I.P

Edited October 21, 2013 by mr_mastiff

[mr_mastiff]

yes , been on them for a while.

 

mike

 

Hi Mike I am getting confused .A few years ago I was given a life time award, I have since been told I would be assessed for PIP from 2015.

 

Were you given an award for a set period of time and you are being reassessed.

[mr_mastiff]

Positive it says DLA1 bottom left front page.

 

no idea , but it is definitely no the same form as before.

 

mike

 

I was hoping that one of the experts would advise on this. Due to the confusion I would do as planned in your previous post and fill it in and send all your additional information in as well.

 

Mike could you scan the form and post it up.

 

I think it is a renewal form. This may help you as a guideline.

 

http://www.actionforme.org.uk/Resources/Action%20for%20ME/Documents/get-informed/dla-filling-in-form-factsheet.pdf

Edited October 21, 2013 by mr_mastiff

[mr_mastiff]

Hello mr_mastiff

 

From 2015 DLA people age 16 to 64 claimant Life time award will be wrote to informing of a date that your DLA will Stop,from that date onwards you will be invited to claim PIP

 

Under PIP there will be regular assessment and No more life time awards....

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/pip

 

Thanks I was not confused about PIP and being reassessed from 2015. I am just confused about which form MIKV has received. I am fairly sure now that this is a renewal form which is still valid until the end of october.

 

I must really make myself clear when I make posts LOL

[mr_mastiff]

If your DLA renewal is due between now and February, you'll be sent a DLA renewal form, which I assume is what the OP has. Those whose award end after February / life time awards who report a change in circumstance, can claim PIP now.

 

Thankyou for clearing that up.

[mr_mastiff]

Problem is people dont realises when it's there turn from 2015,people will be wrote to and told there DLA will stop,from that date you will be invited to claim PIP.

 

Unlike the IB to ESA move where people where still getting paid.

 

There will be No payments made from the date your DLA was stopped,until the results of your PIP what ever the decision may be...

 

Noted thankyou.

[mr_mastiff]

I was told that DLA was payable until they've made a decision on PIP?

 

That was my understanding. I have been doing some research on various Gov/uk sites and in the mythbuster Q/A section it states this.

 

 

If you are awarded Personal

Independence Payment we will

ensure there are no gaps between

benefit payments so long as you send

us the information we need when we

ask for it.

 

This is the site.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/205791/pip-myth-buster.pdf

[mr_mastiff]

Thats the one - thanks

 

mike

 

 

Got there in the end mate! was the sheet any use?

[mr_mastiff]

Hi, 45002, I understand that I must make a claim for PIP, and there is no automatic transfer over. Where the confusion is as I understand it is as follows.

 

I am told to apply for PIP in Dec 2015. I apply and in Feb 2016 I am awarded PIP at the relevant rate. I would still be payed dla until Feb 2016 and then the PIP rate.

 

It would only stop being payed DLA if I did not apply?

 

Is this correct?

[mr_mastiff]

Just a query, 45002, is it fair to assume that if you did claim when the DWP asks you to then there will be no gap in payments? (Going on your last quote in bold).

Apols if that sounds pedantic but many of us are facing this ...

 

 

Everything I have read both on CAB and Gov/uk sites states that if you make a claim for PIP then your DLA will not stop if you do it when they ask.

 

I quote

 

"myth“I have been told that there

will be a break in my benefit

payments if I move from

DLA to Personal

Independence Payment.”

FAQ: Will there be a break

in my benefit payments if I

move from DLA to Personal

Independence Payment?

 

"Fact"

 

If you are awarded Personal

Independence Payment we will

ensure there are no gaps between

benefit payments so long as you send

us the information we need when we

ask for it.

 

I cannot find anywhere that states it will stop when changing over.

 

from the CAB website

 

If you're already getting DLA, PIP is being introduced gradually over several years and will eventually replace DLA. The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) will write to you at some point between 28 October 2013 and September 2017 asking you to make a new claim for PIP instead of DLA. You don't have to do anything until they contact you.

 

You won't get PIP automatically just because you qualify for DLA. You'll have to make a claim for it. If you don't claim when the DWP asks you to, your DLA payments will stop.

Edited October 21, 2013 by mr_mastiff
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[mr_mastiff]

Righty ho, mr_m, that clarifies it. It won't be until 2015 or later for me but I'll be ready for the buggers!

 

same here! Mind you they will change the questions and/or criteria 6 times by then. LOL

[mr_mastiff]

Quite likely that they will. As it is a new benefit with new and untried criteria it will be appropriate to fine tune it as the pilot study goes along. They certainly don't want the same to happen with PIP as it has with DLA in that the legislation ends up like a sieve with all and sundry claiming that they have a 'disability' and being awarded it. It should be harsh, to weed out those that currently use DLA as another source of income without being tested and retested at regular intervals.

 

I hear all of the time that it doesn't cover the extra costs that a disability brings with it. I accept that that may well be the case for some, but for the majority I would suggest that the extra costs are no where near the £100+ a week that they receive never minding the extras in the form of premiums given with means tested benefits/Council Tax Support/HB & Tax Credits. No one has ever listed what those extra costs are when challenged - they get all uppity.

 

Perhaps some of the requirements are very personal and unique to them. The government already uses family members as a free care system and the care given is very cheap at the price. The amount of hours my wife cares for me at times would never be met by the small amount we receive as part of the care component of the DLA.If my wife was to charge the government an hourly rate it may cover two days.

 

As for being tested on a regular basis it is just another money making adventure for the companies involved . If you have a chronic and progressive condition, for example osteoarthritis and your abilities have been tested and found to be within the P.I.P criteria then I would know that condition is not going to improve. The prognosis can only gradually become worse. I am sure that most people would recognise this fact. That the government is going to keep reassessing people who are incurable is a public scandal that only lines the pockets of the companies involved.

[mr_mastiff]

What will happen is that when your DLA award is coming to an end, or when it's been decided you're up for the DLA-PIP changeover (for those of us with indefinite/lifetime awards), you'll be written to 20 weeks beforehand, given the end date of the DLA and details of how to apply for PIP. As long as you apply in time for PIP, then DLA will run on until 4 weeks after you receive a decision on PIP (regardless of the outcome). Then PIP payments start if your claim was successful.

 

 

Estellyn you are a star? I knew it would not stop but could not find the full details. Thankyou, May I ask a favour and ask what your source is? I belong to a self help group and if possible I would like to pass details on

[mr_mastiff]

No problem, here it is:

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/240491/pip-toolkit-factsheet-006-reassessment.pdf

 

As I said you are a star.

[mr_mastiff]

Maybe that is the reason why no one wants to justify what they spend their DLA money on.

 

As for caring, My wife cares for me, has done since we were married 33 years ago. Since I became ill in 2004 she has continued to care for me. Yes she does receive the Carers premium and it isn't a lot of money, but why should the caring role of a wife or husband be valued in monetary terms?

 

As for having a chronic and progressive condition, I know only too well what that means. I am personally living on borrowed time - literally. But even so, any chronic condition can become stable at any time. I suffered 7 years of it being progressive, spending more time in hospital than at home. Yet over the past 2 years it has stabilised and touch wood, have not had to go into hospital and have managed to reduce the level of medication that I take. However, tomorrow maybe different, it may all start up again - who knows.

 

In my case I receive HRM & MRC because my condition is so unpredictable. However, if I had been re-assessed two years ago I would have lost all of the DLA because of the remission. If and when it starts up again, then I would re-apply. Is that not a better and fairer way to award this type of benefit?

 

 

When I was assessed for DLA and ESA I produced a diary noting my chronic periods and my acute on chronic periods. My condition does not go into remission I have periods when it is less painful and I have a greater range of movement but it never goes away. I was totally honest because its the easiest to remember. I would welcome a reassessment every six months but what would be the point of wasting vast amounts of money when my local village idiot could they them I am not going to get better.