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    • Morning dx and thank you for your message.   With regards to your comment about them not needing to produce the deed, the additional directions ordered by the judge included 'a copy of any assignment o the debt or agreement relied upon'  so that is why I thought that point was relevant?
    • Sorry for the long post but I don't want to miss out any relevant information: My wife bought a car from Trade Centre UK and have been having nothing but trouble with it. Unfortunately we paid of the finance used to buy the car as we weren't expecting this much trouble with the car as we we though we would have protection as buying from a dealer. We are wondering if we can still reject the vehicle since the finance plan has been paid off. Timeline is as follows: 13/12/2023 -15/12/2023 Bought car from Trade Centre UK for £10548 £2000 deposit paid on credit card on 13/12/2023 £8548 on finance from Moneybarn (arranged through Trade Centre UK). picked up car on 15/12/2023 Also bought lifetime warranty for £50/month 25/12/2023 Engine Management Light comes on. The AA called out and diagnosed the following error codes: P0133 - Lambda sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Slow reaction. Error sporadic P0135 - Lambda sensor heat. circ.(bank1,sensor1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Component defective Due to it being Christmas took a few days to get through to them but they booked me in for 28/12/2023 to run their own diagnostics. 28/12/2023 Took car in to Trade Centre so could check the car – They agreed it was the Oxygen Sensor and Booked me in for repair on 30/01/2024. I was told they had no earlier slots, and I would be fine to carry on driving car when I said I was afraid of problem worse. During diagnosing the problem, they reset the Engine Management Light. During drive home light comes back on. 29/12/2023 - 29/01/2024 I carry on driving the car but closer to the date, engine goes to reduced power every now and again – not being a mechanic I presumed that this was due to above fault. 20/01/2024 Not expecting any more problems paid off the finance on the car using personal loan from bank with lower interest rate. 30/01/2024 Trade Centre replace to O2 sensor (They also take it on a roughly 60mile road trip which seems a bit excessive to me – I can’t prove this as something prompted me take a picture of milage when I handed car in but I forgot take one on collection – only remembered next day.) 06/02/2024 Engine goes in reduced power mode again and engine management light comes on – Thinking the Trade centre’s 28 day warranty period was over I booked the car the into local garage for the next day to get problem fixed under the lifetime warranty package. Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
    • Ok noted about the screenshot uploads. In terms of screwing up I had one previous ticket that defaulted and ended up in a CCJ from Southend airport because for some reason during COVID I didn't receive their claim form just a notice of default. This hospital ticket was the 2nd ticket that went to CCJ due to a lack of knowledge of the process. Maybe it's easier just to pay them in future I'm thinking though, I don't get them very often anyway
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    • please stop posting up unnecessary unnamed screenshot files  you've done it throughout your threads and we have to renamed them. RENAME THE FILE before you upload if its just text information like a defence or a claim history or a link to a previous post  type it here not by an unnamed screenshot attachment  . sorry NM but you've been here dealing with PPC claims since 2021 somehow you always manage to screw up.......or do totally the opposite of std repeated advice on 10'000 of PPC threads here you are your own worst enemy... dx  
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
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      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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I have taken the letter to the Court, when I got home from work I have yet another letter from Swift (attached). I had asked them to change my payment date to the 1st of the month, thwy are now charging me £120.26 in interest to do this! I did it to avoid the £64 late payment charge they put on every month! I despair!!!

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Unbelievable !

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panicking like mad now.....not heard anything from Swift so I assume they are going ahead with the court hearing tomorrow! I am fearing the worst and can't face going to the court, it was bad enough dropping that letter off! I was almost in tears!

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ccrl14 Try not to panic - I'm sure Ell-enn will be on later. You are going to the court hearing aren't you? Always best - take a friend or family member for support. It's not as scary as you imagine. I'm sure the judge will be sympathetic in your case. I don't know what Ell-enn advises re charges. I can't believe you won't get a suspended possession order - I wonder if you can ask for Swift's litigation charges to be waived because you are in financial hardship and it is those charges together with the interest that will accumulate which are the killers. I believe Swift like to get to court because of the profit they make from the resulting costs. If the charges aren't waived perhaps the judge would consider waiving the interest on them at least??? Be brave x

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Hi there, I will catch up with you later when I get home from work. It is vitally important that you attend the hearing otherwise there is the likelihood that the judge will give possession to Swift. As SJ says above, it's not as scary as you think.

 

I'll be back shortly.........

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I'm absolutely petrified and will be in tears, get no sense out of me.I'm in tears now! I havent told anyone about this so cant take anyone with me. What would happen if I really couldnt go????

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Please try to stay focussed - the court isn't like those you see on TV - the hearing is conducted in the judge's chambers usually around a table just like a meeting. Normally there is only you, the judge and a representative for the other side. It is vitally important you attent - the hearing will only take around 5 minutes and as you have shown you are able to make payments going forward the judge won't take your home away from you.

 

I know you will be stressed and frightened, but the judge will know that and they are usually very good with those attending on their own. |Make sure you get to the court in plenty of time and ask if there are any duty legal advisors in attendance (most courts have them on repossession hearing days), if there are approach them and ask for their help, they can accompany you into the hearing and support your case.

 

Please try to be strong - it will all be over quickly and you will still have your home, but I cannot stress enough how important it is that you attend.

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ccrl14 where abouts in the country are you? I wonder if any other Swifties could go along with you for moral support? We'll certainly all be with you in spirit. Imagine we're all giving you a big hug and we're there to catch you if you fall. x

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Ell-enn is the best Cag's got on these things, sweetjane has given some good advice too, I've been to court with these people and you must do as both Ell-enn and Sweetjane says and not be afraid of this meeting. That's all this is - a meeting and with the figures and paperwork Ell-enn has given you Swift will probably get a suspended order which means they win the case but you keep your home as long as you can pay something towards the arrears. There are case laws which state that you can have the arrears spread over the term of the loan.

 

It's late now, but even if worst case scenario the judge gives possession and you lose your home you can ask for an appeal and then we can all get to work on helping you save this situation.

 

Your day in court might be theworst thing to live through in your own mind, but there's a much bigger operation going on behind the scenes to stop Swift altogether so you are not alone and those others who have already been repossessed can sit back in the knowledge that their loss may not turn into the loss they thought. Can't say much more, but as they have said - be brave, see the day out and come back here for the next chapter no matter what the result is.

 

We are all thinkng of you.

 

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Hi there, try to stay positive - I know you're scared (everyone who has been in your position has felt the same), but they will all tell you that it's no-where near as bad as you think. Just try to focus on how good it will feel when you leave the court knowing your home is safe. Judges in these cases are usually very understanding and as I said in a previous post, make sure you get to the court in plenty of time to ask if there are any duty legal advisors who could assist you. When you get into the hearing try to remember that everyone here is with you and are confident of your success :)

 

It will be OK - so please come back and let us know the good news :)

 

Will be thinking about you.

 

(I've sent you a private message)

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OK, the court you are going to has an advisor there this morning - there will be a court usher at the entrance to the court who will ask for your name, tell this usher that you need to speak to the advisor and they will point you in the right direction. Also, ensure you take along the copy statement you handed in to the court.

 

Chin up - it'll soon be over :)

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Did you phone the court and explain ?

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What did you say in the email ? Did you quote your case number, name etc?

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ccrl14 - I know Ell-enn is helping you immediately with the court situation. I think you also need some local support. Debt is nothing to be ashamed about - you will be suprised just how many people you know currently have or have had similar issues in the past. Talking about this can be a huge step. It will certainly be a great burden lifted. You've made the first step by sharing your problems here and you can see how many people care and are trying to help. Believe me nothing you have done will suprise or horrify anyone here and friends and family would hate to think of you going through this alone, I'm sure. I've been there helping a family member who finally broke down with me when she was in a similar emotional state to you. It was really tough at the beginning but we've helped turn their situation around - it was much much worse than yours. Try and think of yourself going forward. You will be OK. xxx

 

The following organisations will also help on the phone (no particular order).

http://www.capdebthelp.org

www.cccs.co.uk

www.adviceguide.org.uk

Community Legal Advice service (0845 345 4345),

 

 

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Just rang the courts......Possession order granted but suspended for 28 days on provisal of current monthly installment plus £25 towards arrears of £1291.64, she sending me a copy out. My emails hadn't been put on file but she said she will put it back up to the judge. I don't quite understand, isnt that what I asked them for in the first place? Does that mean if after next months payment they can go back to court??

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sent an email to OFT, here's there reply:

Consumer Credit Act 1974 (the Act)

Complaint Against: Swift Advances Plc

Licence No: 391618

I refer to your email on 1 August 2012 sent to Sam Bragg concerning your complaint about Swift Advances Plc (Swift Advances). Your complaint concerns an agreement you entered into for a second charge loan with Swift Advances.

As you may be aware, the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) has responsibility for the enforcement of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (the Act) which regulates secured lending including second charge mortgages.

Under the Act, in order to engage in certain consumer credit activities, including lending, businesses must hold a consumer credit licence; this is issued by the OFT. Swift Advances is licensed under the Act. In order to hold a credit licence, a business must satisfy the OFT that it is fit and competent to do so. This includes ensuring compliance with all relevant consumer protection legislation.

You have complained that they have sent court papers for repossession of your house and that got into arrears on a second loan you took with them because they did not ask you proof of income when you took the loan and it is impossible for you to pay off the arrears with the amount of interest and charges they are adding on the loan.

We are grateful to you for bringing your concerns to our attention. We have noted the details of your complaint, and we will consider this alongside any other complaints we may receive on this issue. If we did decide to take any action against this trader we may need to contact you again in the future. Unfortunately, we cannot disclose any details about any action we may take, due to legal restrictions on the OFT relating to disclosure of information.

While we are sorry to hear about the problems you have experienced, I should make clear that our remit does not permit us to intervene on behalf of individuals to resolve complaints.

The Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) can help with most complaints about consumer credit products and services if the consumer has failed to satisfactorily resolve the matter directly with the consumer credit licensee itself. If you have not already done so, we suggest you raise your individual dispute with FOS at the following address: Financial Ombudsman Service, South Quay Plaza, 183 Marsh Wall, London, E14 9SR; 0845 080 1800; or www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk.

Thank you again for writing to us and bringing this matter to our attention.

Yours sincerely

Olushola Egbowon

Enquiries and Reporting Centre

Office of Fair Trading

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Just rang the courts......Possession order granted but suspended for 28 days on provisal of current monthly installment plus £25 towards arrears of £1291.64, she sending me a copy out. My emails hadn't been put on file but she said she will put it back up to the judge. I don't quite understand, isnt that what I asked them for in the first place? Does that mean if after next months payment they can go back to court??

 

Not having seen the actual order from the court - it looks like possession has been ordered but will not be enforced provided you maintain the normal monthly installment plus £25.00 towards the arrears. If you miss just one payment Swift can apply for an eviction warrant.

 

It's no surprise that your emails weren't put in the file for the hearing - that's why I said you should have rung the court to see if they had been received. They probably didn't read the emails until after the judge had started that morning's hearings.

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I have emailed Swift asking about the SAR request that they have cashed cheque for but not recieved an acknowledgement of it, they sent this email back......I havent recieved a thing!

We write further to your e-mail dated 7th August 2012, regarding a subject access request.

 

Please be advised that Swift has previously responded to your request. A further copy of our response will be posted to you today.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Alan Loblack

Complaints Officer

Swift Group

Arcadia House

Warley Hill Business Park

The Drive

Brentwood

Essex CM13 3BE

Internal: 5003

External: 01277 359 570

E-Mail: [email protected]

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